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converting a st184 to st185

PostPosted: Sat Jan 23, 2010 8:29 pm
by xander279
i have been told that this cannot be done.... i beg to differ

the gt-s and all trac turbo both share the same exact body (the widebody liftback)... which makes me believe not only can i swap in a cool st205 engine and tranny, but i can do other conversions such as a front bumper rc cs bumper replacement, and other cosmetic upgrades. but i think a drivetrain swap is possible as well, is it? i believe so but feedback would be great. plus would it be worth it or should i just buy a st185 and swap in a st205 engine/tranny and just bolt it up to the existing drivetrain?

Re: converting a st184 to st185

PostPosted: Sat Jan 23, 2010 10:36 pm
by 88gt4DE
Theres a few people on here that know better than me , but i think the tunnel for the driveshaft isn't there .. some some sheet metal alterations would be in order. Im sure its not impossible with the right tools and a good welder ....

Re: converting a st184 to st185

PostPosted: Sun Jan 24, 2010 12:21 am
by CMS-GT4
The tunnel is there. At least on some FWD models, I can't say for all. The rear pan and gas tank is the issue. It can be done, yes. But in the market, it is far cheaper to find an alltrac that needs a paint job, for less.

Re: converting a st184 to st185

PostPosted: Sun Jan 24, 2010 1:33 am
by 88gt4DE
Kewl on the tunnel ... good luck finding a gas tank ... Im there now ... none left anywhere. Even tried the locator at work ( toyota ) no good ... :bangshead:

Re: converting a st184 to st185

PostPosted: Sun Jan 24, 2010 3:46 am
by Mafix
might as well play russian roulette.
just go buy a 185.

Re: converting a st184 to st185

PostPosted: Sun Jan 24, 2010 9:13 am
by xander279
Mafix wrote:might as well play russian roulette.
just go buy a 185.


just curious... i do plan on getting a st185

Re: converting a st184 to st185

PostPosted: Mon Jan 25, 2010 2:26 pm
by Mafix
the roulette comment was for finding a gas tank and all the parts needed for that.
it's so much easier to get a 185. you need one anyways to do the swap. might as well just keep it and fix it with the FWD body.

Re: converting a st184 to st185

PostPosted: Wed Jan 27, 2010 11:12 pm
by chaos_cascade
Here you go. My first write up for the how to section.




How to covert your ST184 into ST185.


step 1.) Create Craigslist ad for your ST184

step 2.) Convert ST184 to cash

step 3.) Use alltrac.net and search Tempest to locate ST185 for sale

step 4.) Convert cash into ST185.

step 5.) Now you have created the project you wanted to work on anyway ( there will be things to do )

Re: converting a st184 to st185

PostPosted: Thu Jan 28, 2010 9:09 pm
by bloodMoney
^lol I like that :)

But honestly I think that if you have the time, money and skills to do it; why not? I think that if you can make it road-worthy and don't mind destroying a perfectly good ST18* You'll be pretty unique.

Just don't go around claiming that its a 'real' alltrac! :pissed:

~bloodMoney

Re: converting a st184 to st185

PostPosted: Tue Feb 02, 2010 11:00 pm
by xander279
bloodMoney wrote:^lol I like that :)

But honestly I think that if you have the time, money and skills to do it; why not? I think that if you can make it road-worthy and don't mind destroying a perfectly good ST18* You'll be pretty unique.

Just don't go around claiming that its a 'real' alltrac! :pissed:

~bloodMoney


i would if it was awd with a 3sgte... with the widebody liftback (ST184) and CS Bumper and hood with gtfour decals on side and rear.... why not?

Re: converting a st184 to st185

PostPosted: Tue Feb 02, 2010 11:10 pm
by bloodMoney
I guess that I'm a stickler for purity. "alltrac elitist" if you will.

Why not just be honest with what you've got? One of the attractive features of this car is the 1/3000 claim that we have here in the states. Aside from maxaud and a few others who have brought them in from Canada, this still holds true. You could call it a 'conversion' but with what you will have spent on all of the custom work to get it to a drivable stage, you might as well have bought a real one.

I know that its coming off like I'm an ass, but honestly, I want you to make me eat my words. I want to see this done, b/c there have only been a few that have done this conversion and most of them are 6gens. I would like to see a build thread where a guy completes this.

~bloodMoney

Re: converting a st184 to st185

PostPosted: Fri Feb 05, 2010 2:01 am
by WarTowels
Why attempt to make something that already exists?

If your going to convert something convert a sixth gen.

Otherwise, you are starting off with an inferior - everything.

Alltrac's aren't that hard to come by. Where are you located?

There are TWO Alltrac SHELLS a couple hours from me in Massachusetts.

Start with one of those! Then you can bolt on whatever you want! :shrug:

If I'm coming off like an ass, it's probably because I am one. :wink:

-Towels

Re: converting a st184 to st185

PostPosted: Sat Feb 20, 2010 11:56 pm
by xander279
i'm the one who started this thread... i just bought a st185 not too long ago... lol

Re: converting a st184 to st185

PostPosted: Wed Feb 24, 2010 3:45 pm
by ++ Sean ++
Not ever going to happen.

Re: converting a st184 to st185

PostPosted: Wed Feb 24, 2010 4:02 pm
by mike325ci
:withstupid:

i'm still for the idea of splitting a ST205 into two, bringing it stateside, and then welding it back together. tada, ST205 in the states. :evil: someone do eeeeeeeeeeeet.