List of 8" woofers that fit the door panels

Anoo21

New member
usually no woofer will fit in there without modification at all.. maybe you can be lucky but even i thought mine were not gonna have to many mods but wow it was more then i thought
 

toayoztan

Moderator
So ssmb8 are no longer in stock, anywhere that I can find. What have you guys been replacing them with?

I want a midwoofer, not a midrange, in there.

Does Kicker have anything comparable? They have the COMP VR which seems comparable in specs, but the mounting depth is almost 2" deeper. The COMP VT is supposed to be the "shallow" counterpart to the VR, but the frequency seems to be lost some @ 25-350Hz vs VR's 30-500Hz (like the SSMB8).

What do you guys think? I don't know how much room is back there for the magnet (it appears only the front most part of the door has to be cut/grinded down for the SSMB8, not the rear metal portion that is deeper). But it seems like the CompVT may be the way to go now...

SSMB8 specs
http://www.crutchfield.com/S-0iqsA4K85V ... SSMB8.html

CompVR specs
http://www.crutchfield.com/p_2061CVR82/ ... rch=compvr

CompVT specs
http://www.crutchfield.com/S-OUk8EVykIV ... CVT84.html

Thanks

Bryan
 

YerRandO

Member
Problem with the CompVR and CompVT is they are subwoofers and designed to run in an enclosure and not free air. I had a quick look around and it seems like the 8" midbass drivers that I could find have a larger mounting depth than the SSMB8 (2 5/16") and RMB8 (2 1/4") which might be an issue, I dont remember how much extra room I had when I mounted my RMB8's.

for example: JL ZR800-CW (3.39")
http://www.crutchfield.com/p_136ZR8...?search=midbass&tp=111&tab=features_and_specs

I'd probably search around some forums for a set of kickers, there are people out there selling them. Hope that helps
 

toayoztan

Moderator
YerRandO":250l0kor said:
Problem with the CompVR and CompVT is they are subwoofers and designed to run in an enclosure and not free air. I had a quick look around and it seems like the 8" midbass drivers that I could find have a larger mounting depth than the SSMB8 (2 5/16") and RMB8 (2 1/4") which might be an issue, I dont remember how much extra room I had when I mounted my RMB8's.

for example: JL ZR800-CW (3.39")
http://www.crutchfield.com/p_136ZR8...?search=midbass&tp=111&tab=features_and_specs

I'd probably search around some forums for a set of kickers, there are people out there selling them. Hope that helps

Ah okay, yeah I just figured those comps were midbass drivers (despite being under the subwoofer category).

Damn...time to take another look...I'm not really any speaker guru or savvy of any type, but I see that "free air" specification now. Good looking out!

Bryan
 

toayoztan

Moderator
http://cgi.ebay.com/2-CADENCE-FX8M4-8-5 ... 5193a0a129

Eh? What about these?

I got a free cadence sub 12" from someone I never installed (yet). What's the deal with cadence? The frequency seems to be a bit high for midbass drivers?

These have a mounting depth of 2.5"!

Here are the specs, listed from the ebay site:

Features:

8” Open Basket Midrange Speaker
Kevlar Reinforced Black Pulp Cone
Treated Cloth Accordion Suspension
Linear Progressive Conex Spide
Acrylic Bullet Phase Plug High SPL Design
High Tinsel Expanded Steel Basket
Super Slim Design facilitates Door Installations
Oversize 1.5” High Temperature CCAR Voice Coil
90 oz Magnet Structure Weight
Includes Wire Mesh Grill
Prewired with Bass Blocking Capacitor
Specifications:

RMS Power Handling: 125 Watts
Peak Power Handling: 250 Watts
Frequency Response: 100Hz-11KHz
Sensitivity: 102dB @ 1w/1m
Impedance: 4 Ohms (Also available in 8 ohm)
Mounting Depth: 2.6”
Weight: 4.5 pounds Each
Magnet Diameter 4.75”
Magnet Thickness 3/4”
Mounting Depth 2.5”
TS Parameters:

FMS: 93.1 Hz
QMS: 11.75
QES: 0.82
QTS: 0.76
RES: 6.9 Ohm
RMS: 0.7 kg/s
CMS: 0.20 mm/N
MMS: 13.7 gr
NREF: 0.92 %
BL: 4.9
SPL: 102 dB
VAS: 12.91
RE: 3.4 Ohm
RP: 20.1 Ohm
LP: 5.1 mH
GP: 936 1uF
LE: 0.3 mH

Bryan
 

toayoztan

Moderator
Sorry for posting all these links (don't even know if Cadence is good lol), but here are some I found of their CVL series with a mounting depth of 2.13"!

http://www.cadencestore.com/ProductCart ... roduct=598

It seems people either don't know of cadence (and thus spit out ignorant reviews) or said they are decent and have had some following time to time in the audio enthusiasts (especially with subs/amps)...I don't know (it was only a quick 5 minute research).

In any case, if they seem decent, I may just try these in my doors. Although, I'm still curious why the range is so high (up to 11khz vs the usual 500hz or so for the other midbass drivers...)...any ideas why this might be?

Bryan
 

turbo4wd

Moderator
toayoztan":2r5gphq3 said:
So ssmb8 are no longer in stock, anywhere that I can find. What have you guys been replacing them with?

I want a midwoofer, not a midrange, in there.

Does Kicker have anything comparable? They have the COMP VR which seems comparable in specs, but the mounting depth is almost 2" deeper. The COMP VT is supposed to be the "shallow" counterpart to the VR, but the frequency seems to be lost some @ 25-350Hz vs VR's 30-500Hz (like the SSMB8).

What do you guys think? I don't know how much room is back there for the magnet (it appears only the front most part of the door has to be cut/grinded down for the SSMB8, not the rear metal portion that is deeper). But it seems like the CompVT may be the way to go now...

SSMB8 specs
http://www.crutchfield.com/S-0iqsA4K85V ... SSMB8.html

CompVR specs
http://www.crutchfield.com/p_2061CVR82/ ... rch=compvr

CompVT specs
http://www.crutchfield.com/S-OUk8EVykIV ... CVT84.html

Thanks

Bryan

I just installed these recently - they're the current version of the CompVT's you linked:
http://www.sonicelectronix.com/item_21926_Kicker-CVT84-10CVT84.html

There isn't an issue in terms of mounting depth, you'll have room. The issue is the magnet has a very large diameter (compared to stock) and the wire terminals are spaced such that you'll have to cut out the back of the Livesound panel as well as cutting into the door - but once you get that done, they sound great.
 

toayoztan

Moderator
So no issues with the fact they aren't meant for free air? Or does the live sound box do a decent job of being the "box"?

I'd like to get the ones you have, but am thinking of those Cadence's also..

Bryan
 

turbo4wd

Moderator
toayoztan":1ralwy89 said:
So no issues with the fact they aren't meant for free air? Or does the live sound box do a decent job of being the "box"?

I'd like to get the ones you have, but am thinking of those Cadence's also..

Bryan

It's not specifically designed for sealed - its fine for both applications. And the Livesound box is nothing more than a large bracket. The door acts as a large vented enclosure.
 

toayoztan

Moderator
Cool, so not much more cutting on the actual door itself (I don't mind cutting into the plastic box) vs the SSMB8?

I'll probably pick these up then.

Bryan
 

turbo4wd

Moderator
toayoztan":xvkocp1r said:
Cool, so not much more cutting on the actual door itself (I don't mind cutting into the plastic box) vs the SSMB8?

I'll probably pick these up then.

Bryan

The CompVTs are totally different - the terminals are such that you'll have to cut into the door. More than the SSMB8's. The SSMB8's terminals are on the sides so its no big deal - the CompVT's are on the bottom and spread apart from each other - I initially cut a little just like in the pictures, but the terminals kept shorting out on the door so I had to go back and make the following cuts to make it work:
door.jpg
 

RedCelicaTRD

Moderator
I ordered a Kenwood KFC-XW800F and will test it out when it arrives. Mounting depth is 2-3/4", but the frame looks like it might cause some problems.
 

Dave91alltrac

New member
I know this is an old thread, but my 91' All Trac needed all speakers replaced. I searched and searched. Tried some mid subs and they sounded horrible. I finally found some really cheap subs, that looked like they'd fit pretty well and were only $18.00 each. I am shocked at how well they fit and how they sound. REALLY surprised. Now, I'm not a high school kid that needs the wheels to rattle as I roll down the road, but these really do work well. I just wish the doors didn't vibrate when they kick. Not much I can do about that I guess.

I previously cut the back of the plastic mounting plate for Rockville's that sounded like crap, but I think these would almost fit the bracket with minor adjustments. Wish I found them first!

Here are pics and a link to where to buy them. :D
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00CM ... UTF8&psc=1

Front Sub.jpg
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side view speakers.jpg
 
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