ST165 Speaker Fitment Guide

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Re: ST165 Speaker Fitment Guide

Postby ZeroDrift » Thu Aug 30, 2012 5:43 pm

Read the tread. Half way down the first page you will have every dimension you could ever want. Look on Parts Express for affordable speakers that fit.
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Re: ST165 Speaker Fitment Guide

Postby UtahSleeper » Thu Aug 30, 2012 6:01 pm

Dracov wrote:Well first off, neither of those sizes are stock for a 165. The factory fronts are 3" and the rears are 4". Anything bigger will require customizing the boxes. There's probably writeups or photos of such around on the site. I've seen mention of a few people managing as big as 6.5" in the rear. It'd be nice to get all that info centralized though!


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Re: ST165 Speaker Fitment Guide

Postby Killtodie » Fri Aug 31, 2012 2:53 am

So, hey Zero. I bought me a pair of 4" Pioneers at BBY for $20 on sale, just to see how they might fit, they dont.

But you got that 4" to fit without modification?

And for the rear, I opened up a 5.25 speakers and they where noticeably larger than the stock speaker I brought with me as a reference. But the Alpine 5.25 you say fit well.

Hmmm...
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Re: ST165 Speaker Fitment Guide

Postby ZeroDrift » Fri Aug 31, 2012 3:09 am

You have to look at the cut out dimension, not what most manufactured post (cone and surround diameter). I will post up a few decent options tomorrow for a drop in speaker under certain price ranges.
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Re: ST165 Speaker Fitment Guide

Postby ZeroDrift » Fri Aug 31, 2012 2:49 pm

Here are a few potential 'drop in' options. Please double check against the dimensions I have posted on the first page as I'm only looking at the cut-out diameter (nominal mounting) for a match as well as 4 ohm speakers only. There are many more options not listed on this site, and of course many that I won't list as it can be adapted to fit with minor modification. Of course this is only one site that I am referencing as I've had great experience with their customer service and prompt shipping. You can use the dimensions I provided and use a vendor you prefer.

Assorted Speakers: http://www.parts-express.com/cat/home-audio-speakers/13
Speaker List: http://www.parts-express.com/resources/ ... -guide.cfm
Woofer List: http://www.parts-express.com/resources/ ... -guide.cfm
Resources: http://www.parts-express.com/resources/ ... cement.cfm
Car Subwoofer List: http://www.parts-express.com/resources/ ... -guide.cfm

Front Speakers:
$21.35 -Dayton ND-90 4ohm: http://www.parts-express.com/pe/showdet ... er=290-208
$23.00 -Dayton RS100 4 ohm: http://www.parts-express.com/pe/showdet ... er=295-378


Rear Speakers:
$10.74 -Goldwood GW-204: http://www.parts-express.com/pe/showdet ... er=290-370
$26.90 -Dayton ND105-4: http://www.parts-express.com/pe/showdet ... er=290-212
$71.58 -Tangband W4-1658SB: http://www.parts-express.com/pe/showdet ... er=264-878
$91.58 -Tangband W4-1753SB: http://www.parts-express.com/pe/showdet ... er=264-881


Technically you can use 8 ohm speakers as well as the 4 ohm units. My advice is to try to match the ohm rating front and rear so that they are better balanced. Also note that the 8 ohm drivers are going to be easier on your head unit/amp but may play more quietly at the same volume levels.

Other things to note is that you can fit a speaker with a smaller cut out diameter so long as the overall diameter (listed for the speaker) is larger than the speaker pods cut out diameter. Expect that you will have to drill new mounting holes for any replacement speaker most likely, as the likelihood of them matching the OEM mounting holes is fairly slim.
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Re: ST165 Speaker Fitment Guide

Postby Killtodie » Fri Aug 31, 2012 8:13 pm

ok, so, more confusion. I went and bought Kenwood KFC-1093PS. Crutchfield says the Cutout Diameter is 3 11/16 inches.

Your measurements say is just over 4 inches but the speaker will not fit. I cant trust anyone's measurements and half of these dont have template cutouts.
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Re: ST165 Speaker Fitment Guide

Postby ZeroDrift » Fri Aug 31, 2012 8:45 pm

Killtodie wrote:ok, so, more confusion. I went and bought Kenwood KFC-1093PS. Crutchfield says the Cutout Diameter is 3 11/16 inches.

Your measurements say is just over 4 inches but the speaker will not fit. I cant trust anyone's measurements and half of these dont have template cutouts.



Don't trust any other measurements regarding what actually fits in these cars. I've actually measured the speaker pods. Most car speaker's dimensions on the box are iffy at best, and you'd have to search for measurements/dimensions on the factories website. I think I need to clarify the cut out dimension on my list. I've added some clarification to the list on the first page.

I hope this helps.
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Re: ST165 Speaker Fitment Guide

Postby Killtodie » Fri Aug 31, 2012 9:41 pm

good job on the post and better size description, can you also list the inch fractions too please, like 3 1/16 as well as 3.063
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Re: ST165 Speaker Fitment Guide

Postby ZeroDrift » Fri Aug 31, 2012 9:51 pm

Thanks. Perhaps it would be easier to just enter the fraction 13/16 into a calculator. ;)
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Re: ST165 Speaker Fitment Guide

Postby Killtodie » Fri Aug 31, 2012 10:09 pm

that's what Ive been doing so far, but having it already there makes it easier at a glance. all sites post in fractions anyway.

just a suggestion
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Re: ST165 Speaker Fitment Guide

Postby Killtodie » Mon Sep 03, 2012 4:55 pm

I did more looking around this weekend and decided to get a set of JL audio speakers. 3.5 up front and 5.25 in the rear.
The fronts will fit right in and the rears will need a little bit of modding the box to get them to fit.

For me this will be simpler, no 2way 4" speakers fit up front, I dont want to mess with component or spend extra time modifying the box.

I'll order them when I get a chance and post the updates here later
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Re: ST165 Speaker Fitment Guide

Postby ZeroDrift » Mon Sep 03, 2012 5:10 pm

Sounds good! Keep us posted!
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Re: ST165 Speaker Fitment Guide

Postby Rick89GTS » Tue Sep 04, 2012 3:35 am

Nice thread, good work. Subscribed :)
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Re: ST165 Speaker Fitment Guide

Postby Killtodie » Tue Sep 04, 2012 3:34 pm

I was looking around for some more speakers, what do you think

Polk audio vs. JL Audio

Particularly Polk Audio DXi350 vs JL Audio TR350-CXi

Polk is a bit cheaper
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Re: ST165 Speaker Fitment Guide

Postby ZeroDrift » Tue Sep 04, 2012 5:30 pm

Killtodie wrote:I was looking around for some more speakers, what do you think

Polk audio vs. JL Audio

Particularly Polk Audio DXi350 vs JL Audio TR350-CXi

Polk is a bit cheaper



While audio is greatly based upon personal preferences, this is one scenario where using the box volumes can determine one speaker is a better fit than another. Look up speaker/box calculations and enter the specs of the speaker and check which is closer to the OEM pod. When calculating for the front, this would be under the assumption that the passive speaker is blocked of or 'fixed' so that it does not move. I don't have enough experience with the passive speakers to really advise much on the matter.

Here is a link that can help: http://www.diyaudioandvideo.com/Tutorial/SpeakerBox/
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