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Power mirrors not working, I may be missing something?

Postby FC Zach » Tue May 21, 2013 6:38 am

I searched "mirror switch" and "No suitable matches were found."

I've had my armrest/ center console out and checked possible wiring problems, and I found that I have a connector pigtail not going to anything. I have my car together now and figured I would ask here before pulling the armrest off again. . .

While searching the web I found this on FleaBay, this is actually a switch and relay assembly for the JDM power folding mirrors but I was wondering if my unused pigtail is for a relay that I don't have and possibly the reason my mirrors don't work. Any ideas??
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Re: Power mirrors not working, I may be missing something?

Postby FC Zach » Tue May 21, 2013 6:41 am

I guess what I'm asking is. . . even though my car didn't come with the power folding mirrors, should there still be some sort of relay by the switch?
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Re: Power mirrors not working, I may be missing something?

Postby FC Zach » Tue May 28, 2013 3:10 am

I believe a previous owner may have installed power folding mirrors but not entirely sure, I'm still trying to diagnose my non-functioning mirror issue and while searching for a relay like the one above I found a set of mirrors on ebay. I checked the numbers on my mirrors and the numbers match, here is the pic from the listing. Do these numbers indicate the model of mirror you have or are these numbers the same on all Celicas?

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Re: Power mirrors not working, I may be missing something?

Postby FC Zach » Tue May 28, 2013 3:33 am

If these are the folding units then there may be a whole mess of problems as to why my mirror adjusting switch doesn't do anything. I guess I'll be needing a writeup on how to make the JDM mirrors work on my USDM 92.
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Re: Power mirrors not working, I may be missing something?

Postby RedCelicaTRD » Thu May 30, 2013 1:00 am

It does look like you have a set of folding mirrors. There are a few write ups on the internet about wiring up the folding mirrors on a USDM chassis.
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Re: Power mirrors not working, I may be missing something?

Postby FC Zach » Thu May 30, 2013 3:58 am

Thanks, I've seen a write up before just don't remember where.

Here's a new one, looks like it'll be a big help. http://www.alltrac.net/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?f=22&t=9612
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Re: Power mirrors not working, I may be missing something?

Postby DeeCee » Thu May 30, 2013 6:29 am

viewtopic.php?f=76&t=36761&start=15#p352640

I normally pre-wire everything and give it to the buyer all hooked up.

I have noted other wiring colours if your's don't match the wiring code on the link that has been provided.

What 'pigtail' isn't hooked up? Not sure what you mean by 'pigtail'
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Re: Power mirrors not working, I may be missing something?

Postby FC Zach » Thu May 30, 2013 8:08 am

The other pigtail/connector I mentioned that isn't going to anything may be for the power seat that a previous owner had removed. I just assumed that it could be for the mirrors since they didn't function.
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Re: Power mirrors not working, I may be missing something?

Postby DeeCee » Thu May 30, 2013 8:25 am

count the number of wires in the connector loom and list out the wire colours.
Easiest way to determine whether they are for the mirrors or not.

Easiest way to to use your own wiring to make it work.
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Re: Power mirrors not working, I may be missing something?

Postby FC Zach » Thu May 30, 2013 8:47 am

Will do, thanks for the help! I'll do this when I get off work.
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Re: Power mirrors not working, I may be missing something?

Postby DeeCee » Thu May 30, 2013 9:08 am

just to check, do you have the control, relay box and the mirrors? If you are missing the relay box, then the setup isn't going to work. The relay box is located underneath the drivers side panel next to the steering column on RHD cars.

If you really wish to solve, then you need to trace the wires through the loom and see where they end up.

Unfortunately, its a bit hard to ascertain what modifications your car has without being there and taking the car apart..
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Re: Power mirrors not working, I may be missing something?

Postby FC Zach » Thu May 30, 2013 10:26 am

Not sure if I have the relay or not but I will check for that too. I have a LHD car and I would presume that it's still by the column? I'll sort this out when I get home, thanks!
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Re: Power mirrors not working, I may be missing something?

Postby FC Zach » Thu May 30, 2013 11:36 am

The vacant connector I mentioned earlier that I now believe may be for the power seat is a 9 pin connector with only 6 wires. Colors: red, white/black, white/blue, black/blue, black and red/blue.
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Re: Power mirrors not working, I may be missing something?

Postby FC Zach » Thu May 30, 2013 11:45 am

Here's a pic of the connector and also a pic of a retractor control. The numbers on the retractor control don't match up to the pic from Ebay above, is the piece for headlights?
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Re: Power mirrors not working, I may be missing something?

Postby FC Zach » Thu May 30, 2013 12:22 pm

This retractor controller box mounted by my fuse box.
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