90-94 eclipse gsx @ 14psi vs st165 @12psi

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90-94 eclipse gsx @ 14psi vs st165 @12psi

Postby gpmarzan » Sun Jan 22, 2006 4:32 am

who would win you think? i had an encounter with one tonight (a friend of mine is friends with him so ill meet him soon). first we were rolling around 20-25 him ahead of me. floored it in 2nd gear and passed him. 2nd, we were going about 40-45 me up ahead watching him through my sideview mirror. i saw that he floored it coming up real fast so i downshifted to 3rd, slowly got passed till we hit traffic and slowed down. He seems quicker than me i think. stock vs stock at those boost levels with both excellent running engines, who do you think will win?

ps. as we were nearing a red light, i rolled down my window to talk to him and i thought he would too, but he switched lanes and we got between a van. :shoots:
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Postby db » Mon Jan 23, 2006 5:53 am

I'd vote for the GSX. They seem to be faster, psi to psi than us and he has two more on you. But your car is lighter than a 185 so who knows. :shrug:
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Postby Mafix » Wed Jan 25, 2006 2:09 am

i know at those levels of boost my 162<----- is a damn good run...they win off the line but i get them before third. as for a gst i eat them alive...they have less traction than i do. with a gsx at 18psi or more they whip on me. but then i'm at .75 bar...not a lot of boost.
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Postby RuiSousa » Wed Jan 25, 2006 3:37 am

I say put the beat's to it!!! lol :P On a serious note, i have been inside an automatic gsx ('92) with a 15g turbo pushing a little more than 10 psi. That thing felt about the same as my tercel did. To me, it was no comparison to my st165 at stock levels. The st165 at least put me into my seat, unlike that gsx.
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Postby slick1851 » Thu Jan 26, 2006 4:10 am

RuiSousa wrote:I say put the beat's to it!!! lol :P On a serious note, i have been inside an automatic gsx ('92) with a 15g turbo pushing a little more than 10 psi. That thing felt about the same as my tercel did. To me, it was no comparison to my st165 at stock levels. The st165 at least put me into my seat, unlike that gsx.


They have 13g's and autos come with smaller injectors, and they are not as fast stock.

Autos are very slow unless they have a 14b or more, the 13g doesnt make anything for power. They come with 370cc while the man comes with 450cc.

There is a differance in the 2 :shoots:
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Postby RuiSousa » Thu Jan 26, 2006 2:41 pm

I believe it was modded with bigger injectors and the bigger 15g
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Postby slick1851 » Fri Jan 27, 2006 3:31 am

RuiSousa wrote:I believe it was modded with bigger injectors and the bigger 15g



15G??????? What are you talking about. You mean 16G? There really is no such turbo that is used. Now3000GTs use somthing like a 15G but not 1gs.
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Postby RuiSousa » Fri Jan 27, 2006 12:03 pm

This was months ago. What the guy told me was that it (turbo) was from a manual eclipse, told me the name (apparently i forgot), and the boost went a couple psi higher because of the wastegate. He also added the bigger injectors to accomodate the additional boost. I can only go by what the guy told me as i am not into the dsm world. One thing for sure is it was boosting 10psi and fell down to about 8 by 7000rpms. Not exactly sure what that means in terms of turbo size, but that's how it was.
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Postby Mafix » Sat Jan 28, 2006 2:33 am

IMO auto and turbo suck.
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Postby slick1851 » Mon Feb 06, 2006 5:59 am

Mafix wrote:IMO auto and turbo suck.



How is that, want to show me some proof? Did you know Autos will make full boost and not loose boost in shifts. Did you know its better for drag, and DSM people are switching over to auto.


Its also lease strain on drive train parts on a launch, dont make statments that arent true!
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Postby omgitsroy326 » Mon Feb 06, 2006 6:46 am

slick1851 wrote:
Mafix wrote:IMO auto and turbo suck.



How is that, want to show me some proof? Did you know Autos will make full boost and not loose boost in shifts. Did you know its better for drag, and DSM people are switching over to auto.


Its also lease strain on drive train parts on a launch, dont make statments that arent true!


i'm pretty sure he means when your not driving in a straight line
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Postby d1alltrac » Mon Feb 06, 2006 8:21 am

slick1851 wrote:
Mafix wrote:IMO auto and turbo suck.



...dont make statments that arent true!


i dont mean to make it seem like we are ganging up on you but in his post he said "IMO" which makes the statement completely true.

IMO=in my opinion

but i do understand what you are trying to say about autos and drag racing :wink: the same can be seen in camaro, mustang, and supra communities.
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Postby gpmarzan » Mon Feb 06, 2006 10:59 pm

i agree that auto will be good in drag racing due to less lag, but remember what they say- "straights are for fast cars, turns are for fast drivers." plus, i like being able to control my gears when im doing autoX. Automatic likes going to them high gears.
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Postby db » Tue Feb 07, 2006 12:26 am

Automatics are boring. :D
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Postby slick1851 » Tue Feb 14, 2006 4:24 am

db wrote:Automatics are boring. :D


Yes they are but you guys get my point//
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