The world fastes car with 3sgte

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Postby Jay_Tech » Thu Sep 07, 2006 7:41 pm

The Paseo body because its much smaler and less wight and because he got it for a Good $$ Sponsers man.
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Postby turbo4wd » Fri Sep 08, 2006 11:59 am

Mafix wrote:mr2 should have nearly 2 seconds faster in the quater.


When it comes to full blown sport compact drag cars with similar hp figures, in my experience the difference is about 1 second..

1400whp in a ProFWD car will get about a 7.9 - 8 second run.. whlie a ProRWD car with 1400whp will get about 6.8 - 6.9.

So my point was that if he's doing 7.5 in the 1/4 mile.. with a RWD setup, then he is probably pushing much more whp that 680.. assuming of course that his Paseo is every bit as purpose built a dragster as the NHRA ones I know.. I couldnt imagine his dragster being drastically lighter than the ones that run here because you'd have to sacrifice safety by not having the neccessary cage setup.. Sure there might be a difference of maybe 100lbs or so between class regulations here and in Puerto Rico, but not enough to make up the difference from 680 to 1200-1300hp..

A lot of sanctioning bodies outside of the US that drag race have some sort of rulebook patterned after the NHRA's..
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Postby TheRealDealGT4 » Fri Sep 08, 2006 2:46 pm

My friend Luis Ferrer Jr from westpalm beach florida have a 98 6th gen rwd bodied celica with a 5sblock and 3rd gen head making almost 1000 hp. the car used to run fwd and they converted it to rear. the car is hard target. he raced at atco,nj for the pan americans and ran a 7.90 at 170 mph. car is not using nitrous, just a single turbo.
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Postby Gary » Fri Sep 08, 2006 5:09 pm

TheRealDealGT4 wrote:My friend Luis Ferrer Jr from westpalm beach florida have a 98 6th gen rwd bodied celica with a 5sblock and 3rd gen head making almost 1000 hp. the car used to run fwd and they converted it to rear. the car is hard target. he raced at atco,nj for the pan americans and ran a 7.90 at 170 mph. car is not using nitrous, just a single turbo.

That's the car I mentioned in the first page. :)
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Postby Jay_Tech » Sat Sep 09, 2006 1:21 am

Ok he might not have 680whp +100 shot of NOS like he told me. What a really know that he is not using the 5s block and now is running on alcohol. I will try to ask him again because what you guys are saying it’s all true, I’m not that good at knowing Hp VS 1/4 mile speed sorry. My car made 372 on 93Oct and 468 with 116VP and its a Fwd and I don’t know how well would it do on a 1/4 mile, when my car had just 280whp with stock internals it made 13.8 at 105mph and I had a lot of problems melting pistons and not making a good 0-60 in the 1/4mile.

Ohh and another thing the day that I asked him was the day my car made 468whp and I was like man your car must have like 1000whp and he was like not!! It just makes 680 and I have NOS and I did not know if to believe it or not. Like I say I’m not that good on knowing WHP VS 1/4mile speed. Man but I will try to make him tell me Jaja…the important thing his that the man is running a full 3sgte and its making us look good and people know that the engine is a Toyota 2nd Gen 3sgte.
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Postby GT4times2 » Fri Sep 15, 2006 11:59 pm

680whp? Please! He's making more than that. With the large Puerto Rican community in South Florida competing with the guys in PR, 680whp is not an accurate number. It's way too conservative. You have the 10sec Alltrac up here making that exact amount and running 10s. That Paseo's making around or over 1000hp. Factoring the power to weight, not even 680whp could get him near 6s. The guys at Hard Target are making more than 1000whp right now, and are not there yet. Close but not there yet. As for the use of MicroTech LTX12, versus running LTX8 on the 4cyl, it's simply because of the extra outputs. As good and reliable as the LTX8 is, it's lacking in extra options for hardcore racers, so some go for the LTX12. They are great systems though. And most of the 3S guys making all that power run the 5SFE block. Still impressive numbers. It makes me proud seeing a 3s powered car running these numbers.
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Postby RafaCalde » Mon Sep 18, 2006 2:54 am

yeah.... i need to meet this guy cause when i'm done with school in florida i plan on going back home to PR with my car. then i let loose on the island being one of very few people with an alltrac in Puerto Rico.
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Postby Jay_Tech » Mon Sep 18, 2006 3:00 am

Thats cool Rafa and yes you will be one off few with a true Alltrac here in PR. Let me know when you get here
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Postby Sifu » Wed Oct 25, 2006 4:48 pm

Holy crap that thing is fast!!!
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Postby MR2 Guru » Wed Feb 28, 2007 8:28 pm

GT4times2 wrote:680whp? Please! He's making more than that. With the large Puerto Rican community in South Florida competing with the guys in PR, 680whp is not an accurate number. It's way too conservative. You have the 10sec Alltrac up here making that exact amount and running 10s. That Paseo's making around or over 1000hp. Factoring the power to weight, not even 680whp could get him near 6s. The guys at Hard Target are making more than 1000whp right now, and are not there yet. Close but not there yet. As for the use of MicroTech LTX12, versus running LTX8 on the 4cyl, it's simply because of the extra outputs. As good and reliable as the LTX8 is, it's lacking in extra options for hardcore racers, so some go for the LTX12. They are great systems though. And most of the 3S guys making all that power run the 5SFE block. Still impressive numbers. It makes me proud seeing a 3s powered car running these numbers.


Weight to HP ratio, tube frame chassis = light which = fast.
680hp in a +/-1400lb car is more devastating than you think. Via weight/hp estimation, that 1/4 mile time would be approximately 7.8, this all being contingient of the actual weight of the chassis.
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Postby stealthgtfour » Tue Mar 20, 2007 3:07 am

the 60ft tells the tale id be very suprised if that thing weighs more than 1500lbs w/driver
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Postby rio_cyber » Tue Mar 20, 2007 6:50 pm

wasnt the old, black and green hks drag supra built on a 3sge or e503 engine
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Postby Sifu » Tue Mar 20, 2007 6:56 pm

FWD 3sgte w/ Xtrac tranny bits... First import into the 9's too!
That paseo is still quicker!
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Postby fhalperformance » Sun Mar 25, 2007 4:03 pm

I havent heard of anyone swapping a 3S for a 2jz when it comes to drag racing. Ive seen quite a few 3S swapped supra's but that was for weight savings/distribution for autocross/circuit racing.
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Postby RafaCalde » Sat Mar 31, 2007 7:53 pm

the guys at hard target were kinda shady though. i met them at Batlle of the Imports last year in orlando and i asked them if the do rebuilds and i told them i have and old 3S block i wanted rebuilt and they were like "uhh, we don't work on the 3S, we don't like that block. we only work on the 5S's." from there, i said to hell with them. however their car is impressive.
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