mk3 supras and alltracs

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mk3 supras and alltracs

Postby gpmarzan » Fri Feb 16, 2007 12:22 am

how does our cars compare to the mk3 supras, performance wise for both na and turbo? I know the na has 200hp, though i also know they are both quite heavy like ours. theres a few people around my campus that drives around in them that are also mildly tuned and im curious how they perform compare to our cars. i tried searching for past discussions but had no luck, and i apologize if i missed it.
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Postby db » Fri Feb 16, 2007 12:37 am

Mk2 Supras are Celica Supras, which didn't come turbocharged in the US.

I'm assuming you mean the Mk3's then, the more squared, heavy ones.

The N/A's are probably pretty slow, but the turbo's are more in line with our performance. Might even beat us stock vs stock.
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Postby gpmarzan » Fri Feb 16, 2007 1:08 am

db wrote:Mk2 Supras are Celica Supras, which didn't come turbocharged in the US.

I'm assuming you mean the Mk3's then, the more squared, heavy ones.

The N/A's are probably pretty slow, but the turbo's are more in line with our performance. Might even beat us stock vs stock.



ahh..yea i meant the mk3s...i corrected the topic/post. :smokes:

edit. i found a few post relating the mk3s, but i guess it wouldnt hurt to talk about them again.
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Postby alltracshoak » Fri Feb 16, 2007 1:15 am

i guess our car will be outperform in the the high end. my friend use to have an automatic one and he was running at 12 psi and so was I. he took me on the high end because he have a the bigger version ct26 on mk3 compare to ours that could hold boost at higher rpm.
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Postby edv-tek » Fri Feb 16, 2007 5:00 pm

Depends on what year the Supra is. Here is a great 0-60 and 1/4 chart which is fairly accurate.

http://www.albeedigital.com/supercoupe/ ... times.html

The na supra in 88 is a dog; 7.9 0-60 and 16.0 in the quarter. But it most likely will run this time all day. It might be severely undertuned like our cars from the factory. The supra turbo is better at the 1-60 at 6.6 but not the 1/4 times at 15.2. That was fast for back then.
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Postby cardude » Fri Feb 16, 2007 7:02 pm

my friend and i ran my 165 and his mk3 both bone stock. we raced until about 100mph. from a stand still i pulled a couple cars on him then he caught up to about a car length behind me. from a 20 mph roll on which i launched poorly he pulled about 2 cars on my and held it till about 110.
i would say their performance is pretty similar to an alltrac.
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Postby RafaCalde » Fri Feb 16, 2007 9:52 pm

stock for stock depends, the manuals would be on par if not slighty better than ours at the 1/4 mile. my friend has an automatic so right there i'm better than him, he could only do 16.1 bone stock.
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Postby Simba » Sat Feb 17, 2007 12:17 am

Well, ignoring n/a and slushbox Supras, as should be a default concept: MkIII Turbos will nuke and pave an AT in just about every possibly way, mod for mod.

As with any AWD car, the AT has an edge from a dig, but it's toast before long, and certainly with any kind of highway roll or speed run.

However, that assumes that the Supra is in good shape and tune. A lot of kids buy them and beat the crap out of them, so, not all Supras are created equally.

Lots of fast, loud things.
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Postby gpmarzan » Sat Feb 17, 2007 10:58 am

This guy, Nick, in my program just rebuilt his engine and had his ct26 upgraded to 50trim i believe. Our cars will prob see each other on the road one day when we go to our little field trips this yr.
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Postby Simba » Sat Feb 17, 2007 1:49 pm

gpmarzan wrote:...and had his ct26 upgraded to 50trim i believe.


That's pretty tiny for a Supra. The most common ct26 upgrade is a 60 trim, with some people going with a 57.

Lots of fast, loud things.
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Postby lumbercis » Tue Feb 20, 2007 5:37 am

Stock or lightly modded I don't think there is much of a difference. The Supra has more power, but the MkIII's are even heavier pigs than the AT. They are at about 3500lbs to our 3200lbs. Should be a drivers race.

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Postby CryoGoblin » Tue Feb 20, 2007 6:38 am

my friend has a supra (mk3) stock to stock he beats me, same with his brothers jdm supra (1jz), and simba is right, mod for mod the car takes the AT hands down, especially since mods arent as expensive for their cars, plus the cars are inline 6 :S lol
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Postby lumbercis » Tue Feb 20, 2007 7:29 am

^Maybe they are better drivers than you? :shrug: :)
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Postby CryoGoblin » Tue Feb 20, 2007 8:58 pm

my mk3 friend yes probably, but his brother with the 1jz, no, dont know if you know how much power the 1jz has stock? a lot more than our cars
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Postby db » Tue Feb 20, 2007 9:31 pm

Bah. Who cares about stock vs stock anyways? Most of us have some modifications done anyways. Just an exhaust system and a boost controller will do wonders on both vehicles. They do have an advantage with the bigger engine, but at some point he's going to need drag radials or slicks to get traction and even hope to keep up. There's a reason Supra owners prefer rolling starts. :D
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