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RC Bumper questions.

Postby RyDaGriff » Sun Mar 25, 2012 6:33 pm

I am just wanting to be certain exactly what parts are needed for the RC bumper conversion. If someone could indicate on this picture which parts I will need, that would be awesome!

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Re: RC Bumper questions.

Postby Corey » Sun Mar 25, 2012 6:51 pm

The parts and associated part numbers are on that picture - bottom left.

You will also want all the nuts that go with it. Those part numbers are on the picture with the number required in bracket ( )

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Re: RC Bumper questions.

Postby RyDaGriff » Sun Mar 25, 2012 7:01 pm

Are any of these parts transferable from the stock bumper. Obviously 52021 isn't but I'm sure the other parts maybe. I have read that a lot of people don't use 52021 because it is considered nearly pointless as far a protection is concerned but what about for the support of the fascia? I have considered fabricating my own 52021. Any thoughts?
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Re: RC Bumper questions.

Postby Corey » Sun Mar 25, 2012 7:26 pm

Your right, 52021 is probably less than useless for front end protection. But it is the most beneficial part of the entire bumper when it comes to performance.

It's a large drop in weight, and its at the very front of the car so it really helps turn in performance when swapped with the old heavy steel crash bar.

It isn't required to support the bumper cover - the cover doesn't bolt to it in any way. You can make your own out of alumium or steel if you like. Check out Dudeman's project thread for pictures of his custom crash bar.


You don't need the bumper cover clip strips which secure the cover edges to the fender. You can use your old ones by drilling out the rivets and transferring the strips over to the RC cover. Just needs new rivets.
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Re: RC Bumper questions.

Postby RyDaGriff » Sun Mar 25, 2012 7:37 pm

Thanks. So really, I could just get away with buying the fascia and then swapping on parts from my stock bumper and fabbing up my own crash bar, correct?
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Re: RC Bumper questions.

Postby Corey » Sun Mar 25, 2012 8:10 pm

Right.

Absolute bare minimum would be the cover. Don't "need" the black plastic grill pieces or the upper metal cover support.

But without that support the top of the bumper cover will start to sag. And that support is not the same as the standard bumper.

The support number is the "reinforcement #2" in that picture.
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Re: RC Bumper questions.

Postby underscore » Sun Mar 25, 2012 8:13 pm

how do you guys attach the plastic underbody pieces without the mesh grilles? Someone chopped mine up but used it to bolt the plastics to.
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Re: RC Bumper questions.

Postby RyDaGriff » Sun Mar 25, 2012 8:27 pm

So 52029 is different from the USDM version? And not having it will cause the bumper to sag? I guess I'll put that on my list too. Thanks.
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Re: RC Bumper questions.

Postby Corey » Sun Mar 25, 2012 8:35 pm

RyDaGriff wrote:So 52029 is different from the USDM version? And not having it will cause the bumper to sag? I guess I'll put that on my list too. Thanks.


That's right. I just ordered that piece myself because my cover was sagging.

underscore wrote:how do you guys attach the plastic underbody pieces without the mesh grilles? Someone chopped mine up but used it to bolt the plastics to.


The lower plastic grill on the RC cover has all those studs which the grills is secured with. The studs are long enough that I could use nuts to secure the under covers to them.

I drilled holes in the location of the studs and they just bolt right up :) I also cut off those tabs which used to secure to the bottom of th ATA bumper.
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Re: RC Bumper questions.

Postby aus jd 2703 » Sun Mar 25, 2012 9:44 pm

Just to hijack a little bit.
Can I run the aluminum crash bar with a standard bumper cover? I want the clearance for an inter cooler but am a bit tight for cash ATM so thought just the crash bar?
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Re: RC Bumper questions.

Postby temperacerguy » Sun Mar 25, 2012 10:00 pm

Corey Darling wrote:Don't "need" the black plastic grill pieces


just an fyi. all of the grilles on the rc/cs are steel wire, not plastic. I just got mine and they are definitely black powdercoated steel

Corey Darling wrote:But without that support the top of the bumper cover will start to sag. And that support is not the same as the standard bumper.


This I did not know... Time to order that as well :-)
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Re: RC Bumper questions.

Postby DudeMan » Sun Mar 25, 2012 10:09 pm

Here is a detailed write up on installing an RC bumper with the stock USDM crash bar.
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Re: RC Bumper questions.

Postby RyDaGriff » Sun Mar 25, 2012 10:28 pm

Dudeman- Thanks, just what I was looking for.
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Re: RC Bumper questions.

Postby Corey » Mon Mar 26, 2012 2:01 am

temperacerguy wrote:
Corey Darling wrote:Don't "need" the black plastic grill pieces


just an fyi. all of the grilles on the rc/cs are steel wire, not plastic. I just got mine and they are definitely black powdercoated steel

Corey Darling wrote:But without that support the top of the bumper cover will start to sag. And that support is not the same as the standard bumper.


This I did not know... Time to order that as well :-)



Oh cool, I thought they were plastic just by feel, nm then.
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Re: RC Bumper questions.

Postby aus jd 2703 » Mon Mar 26, 2012 3:20 am

aus jd 2703 wrote:Just to hijack a little bit.
Can I run the aluminum crash bar with a standard bumper cover? I want the clearance for an inter cooler but am a bit tight for cash ATM so thought just the crash bar?


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