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Postby patch » Sat Jun 10, 2006 4:53 am

i have a competly stock 165 dd that i would likre to do some minor things to. any ideas besides intake and exasut?? thaks for the help.
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Re: what to do??

Postby theUNYTEDone » Sat Jun 10, 2006 9:15 am

patch wrote:i have a competly stock 165 dd that i would likre to do some minor things to. any ideas besides intake and exasut?? thaks for the help.


get it running and maintained properly. :D
NOT bagging on you 165 owners!!! :twisted:

here's my ideas
-downpipe

depends on how radical you'd like to get.

THEN i'd recommend an SB kit. :D
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Postby Conan » Sat Jun 10, 2006 9:22 am

It depends on your goal and how you define 'minor'. A complete turbo-back exhaust and a good cold air (not just a cone filter) intake will get you started.
When in doubt - increase boost.
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Postby theUNYTEDone » Sat Jun 10, 2006 9:25 am

Conan wrote:It depends on your goal and how you define 'minor'. A complete turbo-back exhaust and a good cold air (not just a cone filter) intake will get you started.


i thought "cold air"=irrelevant on turbo cars?
could do well with a straight intake...
and a front mount...
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Postby Conan » Sat Jun 10, 2006 9:28 am

theUNYTEDone wrote:i thought "cold air"=irrelevant on turbo cars?

Relevant on any car.
theUNYTEDone wrote:could do well with a straight intake...

What do you call a straight intake?
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Postby theUNYTEDone » Sat Jun 10, 2006 9:32 am

straight as in the one's from bayarea.
and if i may ask, what difference does cold air make on a turbo car?
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Postby Conan » Sat Jun 10, 2006 10:34 am

theUNYTEDone wrote:straight as in the one's from bayarea.

I wouldn't call the pipe between the compressor inlet and the AFM an intake, but it doesn't matter :) What matters is that if you do that, and relocate the AFM, you must shield the air filter off the engine bay heat.
theUNYTEDone wrote:and if i may ask, what difference does cold air make on a turbo car?

Same as on N/A car - cooler air entering the air filter. Why do you think it doesn't make a difference?
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Postby Gurr » Sat Jun 10, 2006 5:40 pm

I would get the turbo back exhaust first, that really opens up from the crunched up rusty stock one. If you're on a budget you can get the SSAC distributed exhaust (Its not made by them).

A cone filter off the afm helps a little.

Then 2nd gen exhaust manifold and turbo are a good upgrade after that.

A boost controller too, preferably electronic but manual does the trick, you have to a have a boost gauge before this mod though.

That is what I would consider 'minor'. Could also do adjustable cam gears.
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Postby theUNYTEDone » Sun Jun 11, 2006 4:00 am

Conan wrote:Why do you think it doesn't make a difference?


it's just going to the HOT ass turbo!
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Postby toayoztan » Sun Jun 11, 2006 8:53 am

theUNYTEDone wrote:
Conan wrote:Why do you think it doesn't make a difference?


it's just going to the HOT ass turbo!


But the intercooler cools down the current air temp by a percentage (in most circumstances). It doesn't tehnically lower any temperature of air to a certain temperature.

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Postby theUNYTEDone » Mon Jun 12, 2006 2:51 am

but if i'm thinking correctly, the intercooler's after the turbo, yes?
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Postby Conan » Mon Jun 12, 2006 4:07 am

theUNYTEDone wrote:but if i'm thinking correctly, the intercooler's after the turbo, yes?

Yes, and the cooler the air is on the way to the turbo, the cooler it will come out of the intercooler.
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Postby Maloy » Tue Jun 27, 2006 3:59 pm

the colder the air the more dense the air is, the more dense the bigger the bang...big bangs are good for horsepower. :twisted:
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Postby omnivore » Tue Jul 11, 2006 5:23 am

Cooler air is a twofold positive. The cooler air is denser in oxygen molecules. More oxygen per given intake charge = more power. Also, the cooler the intake charge is, the less chance for detonation. The less chance for detonation leaves more room to "up" the boost even more before pinging = more power yet again.
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