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Postby patch » Sat Jun 24, 2006 2:38 am

which is more rare the 165 or the 185?? i always see posts for the 185 but not near as many for the 165 also i have a harder time trying to find parts but 185 parts are everywhere. thanks
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Postby suprakid95 » Sun Jun 25, 2006 7:08 am

the 165 is rarer but there is no definite production number for them.

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Postby SuperWhite92 » Sun Jun 25, 2006 7:50 am

ST165 is rarer: here's the production numbers:

ST165: http://www.toyota.mnc.ru/framno/ST165.html

ST185: http://www.toyota.mnc.ru/framno/ST185.html
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Postby 7thGenDragon » Sun Jun 25, 2006 10:04 am

suprakid95 wrote:the 165 is rarer but there is no definite production number for them.

http://www.alltrac.net/FAQ.html


About those faqs, it says that in 1989 the options of leather, sunroof, and power windows, Yet my 88 has those options too. So are those facts right or do i have a rare and unique alltrac?
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Postby SuperWhite92 » Sun Jun 25, 2006 11:35 pm

Many of the facts need an update. They've been there for as long as I've been here, so about 3 or 4 years.
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Postby Maloy » Tue Jun 27, 2006 3:56 pm

7thGenDragon wrote:
suprakid95 wrote:the 165 is rarer but there is no definite production number for them.

http://www.alltrac.net/FAQ.html


About those faqs, it says that in 1989 the options of leather, sunroof, and power windows, Yet my 88 has those options too. So are those facts right or do i have a rare and unique alltrac?


The best way to tell if your 165 is an 89 (which would make it super rare) is the 89s had shoulder belts on the rear seat belts. In fact starting in 89 every us car is required to have the shoulder belts in back seats.
Im pretty sure they all had power windows, iv never seen or heard of a 165 with manual windows unless they were put in by the owner. And i had an 88 with abs, leather and a sunroof...my white one has no abs and no sunroof and soon no power windows.
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Postby patch » Fri Jun 30, 2006 4:51 am

did most of the 88 165s come with a sunroof and leather?? mine is cloth with no sunroof.
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Postby Maloy » Fri Jun 30, 2006 3:45 pm

most came with a sunroof, but not leather.
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Postby AlltracAvenger » Mon Jul 03, 2006 3:22 am

As far as production numbers go, the highest I've ever seen was an '89 in the UK... #10,036. I'd say that goes with the info on that Russian site. As further info, several cars I've checked(mine included; #2,914, with a manu. date of Nov. '87) fit that bill as well... but the ST165 is definately a very rare car.

Edit... my car is black exterior, black interior. It has A/C(that was an option; very few '165s didn't have it though), power windows(I think these were standard; _every_ GT-S and GT-Four I've seen has 'em), ABS, and sunroof. No leather, which I kinda like... I'm not much for leather in a car.
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