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hardtop alltracs!!

Postby celicast184 » Sat Mar 15, 2014 3:25 am

i have never seen one until my recent purchase. Are these rare to find? Is there any weight difference than other alltracs? any info to enlighten me!!
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Re: hardtop alltracs!!

Postby celicast184 » Sat Mar 15, 2014 3:26 am

also, how many of you guys own hardtops???
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Re: hardtop alltracs!!

Postby CMS-GT4 » Sat Mar 15, 2014 3:38 am

You mean non sunroof? More headroom and I think at least 30lb lighter.
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Re: hardtop alltracs!!

Postby TRDTurko » Sat Mar 15, 2014 5:09 am

as far as I know the only way to get one is to hack the roof off and weld the roof from an ST on . I'm going to do it to my race trac next winter if I can find a ST to hack up.
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Re: hardtop alltracs!!

Postby celicast184 » Sat Mar 15, 2014 5:49 am

by hacking off the roof of an st, will that sacrifice the structural design of the alltrac? I never even realized this car was offered hardtop as well, until I went and saw the actual car. I know the original mr2 turbo hardtops are a pretty rare piece and I was wondering if hardtop alltracs are the same. its funny, because as of now, I own my 1991 original mr2 turbo hardtop as well as my 1990 hardtop celica alltrac!! it was meant to be.. hehehe
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Re: hardtop alltracs!!

Postby TRDTurko » Sat Mar 15, 2014 6:02 am

the only extra structural support in the roof of the alltrac is probably for the sun roof. As long as the job is done properly it should be strong enough. Someone has already done it if you search the board.
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Postby celicast184 » Sat Mar 15, 2014 6:06 am

I remembering seeing that done. the roof was cut off of a red st and welded onto an alltrac.
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Re: hardtop alltracs!!

Postby underscore » Sat Mar 15, 2014 8:37 am

You only need to take the skin from the non-sunroof model, so the structure can remain untouched. My GTS has a sunroof and my RC has a solid roof, there's definitely a lot more room in the RC. I've never heard anything about non-sunroof Alltracs being rare, nor non-sunroof MR2's being rare. I thought it was the t-top MR2's that were harder to find.
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Postby ALLensTRAC » Sat Mar 15, 2014 2:28 pm

underscore wrote:You only need to take the skin from the non-sunroof model, so the structure can remain untouched. My GTS has a sunroof and my RC has a solid roof, there's definitely a lot more room in the RC. I've never heard anything about non-sunroof Alltracs being rare, nor non-sunroof MR2's being rare. I thought it was the t-top MR2's that were harder to find.


That is so funny!!! Non-sunroof hatches are extremely rare in Florida as are MR-2 hard tops. Every 2 in FL is a T-bar lol!!! I guess that goes to show climate difference causing change in purchase options.

As for the skin swap, it doesn't look too difficult the closer I get to removing my sunroof. An ST coupe roof can not be used. It must be a hatch (narrow or wide). Also the new panel is discontinued and there are zero in the world new. Try Car-part.com in the US to find one. That's how I got mine and they should be able to save you the headliner as well. I'll be updating my thread on the subject once I start drilling welds to show how it is done.

Edit: I believe the swap saves around 46lbs if memory serves me right (it usually doesn't)
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Re: hardtop alltracs!!

Postby underscore » Sat Mar 15, 2014 7:55 pm

Well it IS Florida, I'd wager getting a car without a sunroof is more of an option than getting one with a sunroof.
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Re: hardtop alltracs!!

Postby scottytohotty » Sat Mar 15, 2014 9:46 pm

I have a 92 st185 with non sunroof and
It came factory, big difference in head room compared
To my sunroof st185. I have been told its
Pretty rare to have a non sunroof at185.
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Re: hardtop alltracs!!

Postby celicast184 » Sat Mar 15, 2014 11:13 pm

^^^ nice!!! I wish mine was a 92, but unfortunately, it isn't. the sun roof on my gts gets annoying at times. the gears inside the motor I assembly itself likes to eat at the plastic gear inside. it sucks because it always goes out randomly.. one thing I do hate about the alltrac hardtop is that there is no map light above the rear view mirror...
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Re: hardtop alltracs!!

Postby celicast184 » Sun Mar 16, 2014 12:29 am

there is really not that much info on these hardtops! theres no confirmed weight, production numbers, options, etc. just googled it too.. not much was found
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Re: hardtop alltracs!!

Postby celicast184 » Sun Mar 16, 2014 12:42 am

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Postby ALLensTRAC » Sun Mar 16, 2014 12:57 am

What happened to the front lip on your 184? Out for a mold maybe?( crosses fingers lol) Cars all look great! I am super jealous you found one without the sunroof!! Oh and if you look in the weight thread by Sifu he posted the sunroof assembly weight. It was I believe 35 pounds.
You can adapt the map light from a JY sunroof car but it may require getting the metal bracket that is welded to the roof structure. I'll know more about this once I tear my headliner and sunroof out.
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