What should have gone into the FR-S

My personal opinion. I'm curious about this engines code. Could this be the next gen 3S
http://youtu.be/hWc46vOn1Y8

being its a Toyota made 4 cylinder turbo I would have to say its being made from the generations of learning from the 3sgte, even though they share no parts, trying to make an engine from scratch like this with no previous knowledge would be hard, its heritage that's built that engine, they should have stuck with the 3sgte another 20 years of development of the same engine would have made this anyway.

Code 8AR-FTS.

This engine has nothing to do with the 3SGTE. This engine was built to answer to the German's 2.0 liter turbo fours. I read about it a few months ago on worldcarfans.com. It has some impressive features. I'm sure they've incorporated what they learned from the 3SGTE motor (and other 4 cylinder motors they've built through the years)

Let's see what the aftermarket does with it. Let's also hope Lexus offers more powerful versions of it in the CT200H, and the IS250. It's about time Toyota/Lexus got back in the game with solid performing engines. These days, it's like they're allergic to power.

I was not so crazy about the Boxer motor in the FR-S at first, but with the strong aftermarket I learned to appreciate it. Possibly will add it to the stable when prices drop. Can't beat that car. Power to weight triumphs, especially with a turbo kit.

Integrated exhaust manifold would make bigger aftermarket turbos an issue. Then again, it may not need a huge turbo to make as much power as you'd want.

lumbercis":5psflamw said:

Integrated exhaust manifold would make bigger aftermarket turbos an issue. Then again, it may not need a huge turbo to make as much power as you'd want.

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Not necessarily. A single thick walled, stainless pipe from what would be a 4 bolt flange from the head to whatever turbo you want. With internal or external gate. The real problem would lie in it being to smart for its own good. Little mods would be tough.

It becomes a problem because you can't reposition very easily due to the fixed manifold. Depending on how close they have the turbo to other components right now a different turbo might be out of the question due to interference. Then you have to ask how well does it flow? Just because it's a new car/engine doesn't mean it can flow very well, even for a stock application.

If you have 60 grand to blow we have a brand new FRS with a turbo kit , big brake kit and lots of other little goodies added to it in Delaware ... LOL

Intergrated exhaust mani kills it for me. All interest lost