Automatic trans Alltrac?

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Postby Simba » Tue Oct 07, 2008 5:28 pm

wizzards581 wrote:cuz auto are faster then manuals... says mkiv guys...


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6spd ?

Postby GMan » Wed Oct 08, 2008 3:38 am

> Hotrodhendrix
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> Location: DFW Texas
> Posted: Tue Oct 07, 2008 3:31 pm
> The caldina did have a 6 speed

??? Really 6spd manual on the Caldina GT_Four ?
Care to post a link or a page with the info ?
https://wfs.bc.edu/melket/Public/Car_st ... mgres.html

Possibly you are referring to a fwd set up that did not get the 3sge.
There were several grades of "Caldina" in Japan.
The fwd 1zzfe could've had had a 6spd ?
https://wfs.bc.edu/melket/Public/Car_st ... index.html

> but it will not work with our setup.

Any Tranny that bolts up to an S series engine would work on a 3sgte.
There have been a few 3sgte's swaps mated with an auto.
Would make for an easy daily driver. U could spool up the turbo easier
in an auto ?

> I guess I should say it will not work without a HUGE amount of money.

Big money or a few friends and recycled parts.

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Postby Hotrodhendrix » Wed Oct 08, 2008 1:16 pm

Ahhh my bad.. Altezza not caldina had a 6 speed manual beams 3s.

You got me. :P
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Postby wizzards581 » Wed Oct 08, 2008 3:08 pm

what about the Carina ED... they have st205 chasis 4dr w/ 3sgte.
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Auto AT or 6spd ????

Postby GMan » Wed Oct 08, 2008 11:43 pm

> wizzards581
> Location: Nor Cal
> Posted: Wed Oct 08, 2008 3:08 pm
> what about the Carina ED... they have st205 chasis 4dr w/ 3sgte.

I am not familiar with the Carina.
They Might have had a 4wd Carina, but with a 3SGTE ?

http://www.cars-directory.net/specs/toy ... ed/1996_6/

3SGE; no 3SGTE ?

I am confused, thread started as an "Automatic trans Alltrac?" .
Then 6spds jumped in ? Lexus has 6spd autos fwd or RWD ?

As far as I know, Only the Caldina was equipped from Toyota with
an auto & 3sgte. There could be other models in Japan ?
Love to learn more...

There have been a few 3sgte swaps into FWD cars. (MR2's?)

Not sure if there Ever was an Auto AT ? A few people have
gotten Caldina front cuts, so there are probably Caldina Autos
out there. Same as the USDM Highlander/Sienna?RX300 autos ?

Found one on 6gc.net
3SGTE-auto
http://www.6gc.net/members/9910
http://www.6gc.net/forums/index.php?sho ... 0201&st=20

I know there are Others, I'd have to Dig....

Could be a Fun swap even your mother could drive, burn rubber and Love ? :evil:

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Postby tw2 » Thu Oct 09, 2008 7:07 pm

I am fairly sure we have manual caldina's here. No idea if they are 6speed but they are straight from japan and we are a pretty manual demanding market.
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Postby LegacyofDan » Thu Oct 09, 2008 7:23 pm

hmm sweet, well find out, since wikipedia says otherwise :)(not saying u r wrong just saying that someone should fix that in wiki if so)
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Postby CMS-GT4 » Thu Oct 09, 2008 9:11 pm

This claims 6sp auto.
http://www.venus-auto.com/inventory/toyota/i-st215.htm

From what I have been told the 5speed manuals use the st205 gearbox.
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Postby sammyw » Fri Oct 10, 2008 1:59 am

I learned how to drive on my Dad's GT-Four, I understand the why to this, my Dad told me once when I made a mistake that all his friends would hate me if I ruined the clutch on his car because they would have to help him replace the clutch. I am an okay driver now and I still drive a ST-185 and stops on hills still give me nightmares. I don't think it is worth all the work for something that may or may not work.
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Postby tw2 » Fri Oct 10, 2008 5:59 am

I am claiming that the caldina was probably manual here but I don't know if it was 5 or 6 speed. Since the toyota carib etc have 6 speed I would be surpised if they didn't have a 6 speed caldina. An extra gear would be great, 3rd just doesn't extend high enough for my liking.
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Postby GMan » Sat Oct 11, 2008 3:53 am

> Posted: Thu Oct 09, 2008 9:11 pm
> Post subject: This claims 6sp auto.
> http://www.venus-auto.com/inventory/toyota/i-st215.htm

I Doubt That; but Possible. I Thought the Last year of the Caldina was '97 ?

> From what I have been told the 5speed manuals use the st205 gearbox.

Probably. There were Caldinas offered as manual; 1st and 2nd gens.

# tw2
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# Posted: Fri Oct 10, 2008 5:59 am
# I am claiming that the caldina was probably manual here

Which model or year of Caldina ? There were Certainly manual Caldinas.
Some came with engines Other than the 3SGTE and only fwd ?
I assumed the last generation GTFour with the 3SGTE and AWD was Only automatic. Probably 4spd ?
I have the Sales brochure, but it is in Japanese.
The '05 one I sat in at the Toyota Mega@web was automatic. :D

> Since the toyota carib etc have 6 speed

I'd have to look up That car. Was it offered with a 3sgte or an S series motor ?
(the 1zz Was offered with a 6sp manual)

> An extra gear would be great, 3rd just doesn't extend high enough for my liking.

There are custom gear sets for the ST185 and ST205 trannies, if you have $$$.
Change over the gears final drives to the RC or rally tranny ?

I'd love to have an an inexpensive Auto awd set up.
The new matrix USDM models have he 2.4L, w-auto only.
Pricey though. Cheaper better to do a 3sgte and auto in an older chassis...

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Postby tw2 » Sat Oct 11, 2008 3:57 am

I can confirm the 3sgte awd caldina definitely without a doubt came manual here.... but its 5 speed or at least the ones I saw were.
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Re: Automatic trans Alltrac?

Postby snakeeater » Mon Dec 13, 2010 3:45 am

Could you use the engine from the st246? gt4 it was auto.
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Re: Automatic trans Alltrac?

Postby tw2 » Mon Dec 13, 2010 4:37 am

Wow back from the grave.

One of my workmates has a st21x non-turbo awd with 5 speed auto trans. 3s engine so this would probably work if someone found something to control it.
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Re: Automatic trans Alltrac?

Postby 88gt4DE » Sun May 15, 2011 12:30 am

This would be one hell of a project .. girlfiend loves alltracs and hates manual trans which kills it for her. If there was only a way ... start with something like this http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/98-03-CA ... ories#shId maybe and spend a few years fighting with it :shrug: Now I see this one above has no ECU , but there were others that did have it in the sale , good or not who knows ... I think anyone with a brain for wiring can make this work ...
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