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88 alltrac

Postby chevyok06 » Tue Nov 05, 2013 2:51 pm

Looking at buying an alltrac I posted in the new guy section for specs. But I was wondering if any one had a break down of how much it will cost to get the third gear synchronizer replaced. In only asking because Hawaii is a little steep on all prices. So how much parts and labor should I expect? Thanks.
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Re: 88 alltrac

Postby 88gt4DE » Wed Nov 06, 2013 7:49 pm

Trans in car or already removed ?
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Re: 88 alltrac

Postby chevyok06 » Wed Nov 06, 2013 7:59 pm

No what trans is in it also.
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Re: 88 alltrac

Postby 88gt4DE » Wed Nov 06, 2013 8:06 pm

Gonna be very pricey to pull it and do that. I would imagine it would be between 2 and 3 grand at least ...
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Re: 88 alltrac

Postby Rick89GTS » Wed Nov 06, 2013 9:56 pm

Cheaper, faster and probably easier to buy another tranny or upgrade to the 185/205 tranny. The 205 tranny is not a bolt-in though.
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Re: 88 alltrac

Postby chevyok06 » Wed Nov 06, 2013 10:26 pm

I think I have a 185 engine. Lol. Either way is a 185 trans bolt on to 165 engine? Also do they make a short throw kit.
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Re: 88 alltrac

Postby chevyok06 » Thu Nov 07, 2013 1:07 am

I'm thinking about draining the transmission and trying a new fluid any suggestion on what works best to quiet down the synchronizer?
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Re: 88 alltrac

Postby Overtriped » Thu Nov 07, 2013 1:14 am

Some pull the trans while its in the car, if you want to get a 205 trans you have to swap over your old speed sensor and the mounts. not really a big deal. Where you are it might be cheaper just to buy one directly from Japan. If your taking all that apart be sure to resurface the flywheel and replace the clutch, and release bearing.
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Re: 88 alltrac

Postby Rick89GTS » Thu Nov 07, 2013 2:02 am

^Hey Overtriped, if you use the 205 tranny with a 165, do you have to mod the front cv axles or can you use the stock 165 axles??
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Re: 88 alltrac

Postby ___Scott___ » Thu Nov 07, 2013 4:27 am

chevyok06 wrote:I'm thinking about draining the transmission and trying a new fluid any suggestion on what works best to quiet down the synchronizer?

You can try some Pennzoil Synchromesh fluid. I put in a quart and then filled with convention trans lube (I forget which, it was on my other ST165, now gone.) It made a big difference on how a worn synchro worked.

Info: http://www.pennzoil.com/other-car-products/transmission-fluids-and-gear-oil/manual-transmission-fluid/
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Re: 88 alltrac

Postby chevyok06 » Fri Nov 08, 2013 12:18 am

I just paid to have my transmission flushed at a local lube shop. They also had Lucas 75-90 in Stock so I got that. It already sounds better. I can cruise and never hear and get a quick little grind if I hammer into third. I have read that most people see a little results immediately and it gets better over time with new fluids. So I am optimistic at this point and hoping at this point that I have similar results and it gets better off time like others have. Thanks for all the help and suggestions. This car is awesome btw
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Re: 88 alltrac

Postby 88gt4DE » Fri Nov 08, 2013 1:55 am

Hope it helps man ... keep us posted ...
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Re: 88 alltrac

Postby chevyok06 » Fri Nov 08, 2013 4:58 pm

Will do.
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Re: 88 alltrac

Postby chevyok06 » Tue Nov 12, 2013 4:53 pm

Just about a week out it shifts allot smoother in every day driving I can go all day with no grind. If I'm making a Decent pull how ever she grinds when I grab third. But this thing is silly fast. Is it normal to break 100 mph in third in these things?
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Re: 88 alltrac

Postby UtahSleeper » Tue Nov 12, 2013 6:37 pm

chevyok06 wrote:I think I have a 185 engine. Lol. Either way is a 185 trans bolt on to 165 engine? Also do they make a short throw kit.


Yes and yes, but not sure on the cost for a short throw. I just know I have seen them.......unless I am mistaking for the fwd version......
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