frankinstien transmission E350

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Re: frankinstien transmission E350

Postby alltracman78 » Wed Jan 08, 2014 10:18 pm

The AZ engines sit perfectly vertical, while the S engines sit at an angle [they're technically a slant 4]. The transmissions are set up the same way, so if you attach an AZ engine to an E transmission meant for an S engine it's going to rotate the AZ engine so it sits tilted backwards some [20*?]. This may not matter, but it might effect the oil pickup/drain, coolant flow and will definitely effect engine mounting.

If the AZ bellhousing bolts to the trans none of that obviously matters, but if not you'll probably need an adapter plate to make it work, at minimum.
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Re: frankinstien transmission E350

Postby BlackKnight » Fri Jan 10, 2014 12:37 am

Thank you for the very helpful comment. It puts a better perspective on the situation. Any idea if I can keep my current clutch or do I have to run a different one?
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Re: frankinstien transmission E350

Postby BlackKnight » Tue Jan 21, 2014 12:32 am

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Re: frankinstien transmission E350

Postby BlackKnight » Fri Jan 24, 2014 1:35 am

I am excited, did some research and found out not only will the transmission bolt up but I can keep my clutch. Now just got to search for axle, mount, and shift linkage solution.
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Re: frankinstien transmission E350

Postby BlackKnight » Mon Jan 27, 2014 7:05 pm

I ordered a E153 from Ebay and can't wait to get it. I am looking into possible using my case and differential with MR2 gearsets. Hopefully I can pull it off, if not then I will make custom mounts and shift cables.
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Re: frankinstien transmission E350

Postby CMS-GT4 » Mon Jan 27, 2014 7:09 pm

Keep us posted how it works out.
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Re: frankinstien transmission E350

Postby BlackKnight » Tue Feb 04, 2014 2:58 pm

Got it.
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Re: frankinstien transmission E350

Postby BlackKnight » Tue Feb 04, 2014 3:00 pm

Anyone know in the first set of pictures. The first picture, where I can attach a transmission cooler if this transmission will pump fluid itself or do I need a pump. It's bypassed by a loop line now?
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Re: frankinstien transmission E350

Postby phattyduck » Tue Feb 04, 2014 4:53 pm

Looks like you got an MR2 transmission. Hopefully you can use your shifter parts on it to convert it to FWD-style selectors, otherwise you will need to get parts of a busted Alltrac trans.

The fluid is pumped through that cooling loop driven from the differential. On the Alltrac/GT4 it goes to a factory cooler that is about 3"x10". From there, the cooled fluid is sprayed onto the synchros (how many depends on trans version/year).

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Re: frankinstien transmission E350

Postby BlackKnight » Tue Feb 04, 2014 5:00 pm

Thank you. Is there a special cooler required or any transmission cooler will work?
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Re: frankinstien transmission E350

Postby phattyduck » Tue Feb 04, 2014 5:03 pm

BlackKnight wrote:Thank you. Is there a special cooler required or any transmission cooler will work?
It is low pressure, so anything will work. The MR2 guys generally don't even add a cooler, even the high horsepower guys... The Alltrac/GT4 has a factory cooler due to the hypoid gears in the transfer case adding extra heat to the transmission (shares the same gear oil).

The threads into the transmission are M14x1.5 if you want to change to AN fittings out of the trans.

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Re: frankinstien transmission E350

Postby BlackKnight » Tue Feb 04, 2014 5:10 pm

Man, thank you for the great info, very much appreciated.
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Re: frankinstien transmission E350

Postby CMS-GT4 » Tue Feb 04, 2014 7:15 pm

You might want to find out the line length and capacity of the alltrac unit. There was a post around here not long ago saying if you go too large it will be ineffective due to pump size. You might even consider just using the alltrac's oem cooler.
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Re: frankinstien transmission E350

Postby BlackKnight » Tue Feb 04, 2014 9:11 pm

I'll do that. I'll research a used one.
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Re: frankinstien transmission E350

Postby BlackKnight » Wed Feb 05, 2014 11:23 am

Anyone know the length of the Mr2 shift cables? Celica alltrac?
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