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Re: Project CMS: Winter time and the drivin' is easy

Postby MWP » Tue Feb 07, 2012 11:29 am

athousandleaves wrote:If thats the case then why are those URAS "steering up spacers" so tiny?


They are for drifters to gain extra lock angle.... as i said, itll have minimal effect at regular driving steering angles.
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Re: Project CMS: Winter time and the drivin' is easy

Postby CMS-GT4 » Mon Feb 20, 2012 3:53 pm

I just was just reading the alltrac is a 2.9 turn to lock vs the rav4s 2.7, I wonder what makes it turning faster. Maybe the steering box, or maybe I misunderstand the point I should be measuring the tie rod end holes from.
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Re: Project CMS: Winter time and the drivin' is easy

Postby CMS-GT4 » Tue Feb 21, 2012 10:33 pm

So I ordered a new lip today. I'll post pics and details once it gets here and I can fit it.
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Re: Project CMS: Winter time and the drivin' is easy

Postby toayoztan » Wed Feb 22, 2012 3:29 am

Nice, can't wait to see it.

I'm still waiting for a lip that looks good on our cars with minimal modification (ie no cutting and resecting it back together).

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Re: Project CMS: Winter time and the drivin' is easy

Postby CMS-GT4 » Wed Feb 29, 2012 5:01 pm

So it begins. My carmaro lip project.

I had thought about making my own lip for a long time. I already have part of a lip project that I had not finished, but the way the roads are here I really do not want fiberglass. I had been leaning towards frp or poly, but of course I can not sculpt those.

I had really been fond of this lip.
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I spent a lot of time on body kit sites looking at front lips from a huge range of cars with no luck. athousandleaves was able to spot the rear RS body kit for the camaro looked similar. I had looked at a bunch of pics, and it was close but it was hard to be sure. Luckily at school I ran across one and was able to do a closer comparison of the angles. It looked just like it. I was able to find one on ebay for a fair price, so the game was on.
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Well its here today. I am not sure if the angles of the rc bumper and the alltrac bumper are exact. I did not have anyone to help, so this test isn't perfect. I can already tell its too long for the body. No prob, I have a dremel bit coming just for cutting this. Its also too wide, but I will sort that out. The shape is close, and I think with some bolts holding it together it will be closer. I plan on using a heat gun to get it bent into shape, and a plastic welder to make it a solid lip once I cut it. I'll then paint it to match. I know it takes some work, but its not going to be any harder than making my own from fiberglass, plus this will be durable as hell. Now onto the pics. I am showing this in black and white so the red lip does not distract too much.

This is to give you an idea where the gap is. I think I can correct this with a heat gun and when its bolted up.
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This is just to give you an idea where the dip is on the lip compared to the body to compare to the other pics.
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The length that needs to be cut.
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Re: Project CMS: Winter time and the drivin' is easy

Postby CMS-GT4 » Wed Feb 29, 2012 7:31 pm

I hit picknpull today. I was hoping to get my parts list knocked down, but all I managed to get was some decent engine under covers. I am going to see if I can make these work instead of my metal tray idea. While there I ran into a local who used to own an alltrac, but now drives 70s celicas.

I grabbed a few pics. The car still shines good though its dirty.
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Re: Project CMS: Winter time and the drivin' is easy

Postby CMS-GT4 » Thu Mar 01, 2012 4:52 pm

I think my odyssey is shot. I need to see if I can get the warranty sorted out. I am driving the z today. I really think I will miss it. It's a good car and turns fast and brakes great while getting decent mpg and good road manners. I think I need to make the alltrac it's equivalent or better before I feel ok with letting it go. I am not sure if I can help the alltracs mpg. It gets around 17. Comparable to evos and sti's. I need to work on the interior some and get it to deal with bad roads better. I am likely going to do a bit of suspension research to figure out how to resolve this. The car is awesome on good pavement but looses potential on the bumps.
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Re: Project CMS: Winter time and the drivin' is easy

Postby CMS-GT4 » Wed Mar 07, 2012 2:58 pm

I just got back into town. I ran down to TN for the weekend. While in Knoxville I hit the local pull-a-part. They had 5 fifth gens, but they were either notch backs, or had ugly colored interior. I was hoping to find some decent cf trim, but they were either gone or broken. I did manage to get all the screws I was missing for the doors and center console. I saw a nice set of gray door panels with roll up windows, but I am going to stick with my electrics.

On the way down there we hit the tornado. I wanted to drive my car, but I am lucky we took the dog so we took my wife's crv. We got caught in hail and 63-70mph winds. We tracked the storm on the radio, and with her phone's gps and we stayed ahead of it till we got through nashville. Early on it caught up to us and I thought this was it. We could not drive or anything. 0" visibility. But we managed to escape it. When we got to chattanooga there was one waiting for us there too. It was a nasty day for storms, but we made it out with just a few dents. I know one thing I am sick of in the mid west is all these damn tornados.

As for other projects. I am on spring break, so I am trying to get a lot done with work and I am trying to finish my studio. I am trying to finish building my washout booth, then I can start making shirts again.

I need to order a new battery. I think my odyssey is shot, and from reading their warranty page, it looks like they have made plenty of clauses to not cover any battery that fails in its warranty period. I am likely going back to an optima yellow top. Due to my only driving a couple times a week, I don't want to have to worry about my battery going dead in between drives.
My next big project is swapping my hubs for 5x114. I am sort of waiting to see what tubasteve comes up with on his brakes before I dive into it. He might run across a better rotor option too. That is as long as mine do not sell by the time I get to it. If they sell I will likely go to revolution route since i can just use the supra rotor.

I have been thinking a lot about wheels, but my sport max will not clear a 205 caliper bolted to the 185 spindle w/o a spacer. So depending on how much I have to space the wheels, I may end up selling them and getting something else. I had been looking at a set of used te37s and new rpf1s. From my research the rpf1 is slightly lighter, it is also much cheaper to replace is something happens. I did a quick shop of what they might look like. The te37s are 17x8.5 the rpf1s would be 17x9. There is also the pf01
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Re: Project CMS: Winter time and the drivin' is easy

Postby UtahSleeper » Wed Mar 07, 2012 4:45 pm

Glad the storm didn't cause you any harm.

For your MPG's, have you considered a standalone? I know with the 165's you could add an F-CON and get better mpg's and power. I would assume the same could be said about any tuning tool.
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Re: Project CMS: Winter time and the drivin' is easy

Postby CMS-GT4 » Wed Mar 07, 2012 4:48 pm

I had kicked around using a piggy back or something to adjust the fuel since it runs so rich. For as little as I drive, I wonder if its worth the cost of something adding to my engine management than the extra gas I use. I get around 17mpg and I fill up maybe once a month.
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Re: Project CMS: Winter time and the drivin' is easy

Postby UtahSleeper » Wed Mar 07, 2012 4:53 pm

Yea........if I was only filling that much, getting better mpg's would be way down on the list.
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Re: Project CMS: Winter time and the drivin' is easy

Postby CMS-GT4 » Wed Mar 07, 2012 5:38 pm

Yeah, I might worry about it more if some reason I have to drive more. We usually take my wife's car. Once I am done with my brakes, I we are planning on selling the Z and her CRV to get her something new. We usually drive her car everywhere. My car is only driven for fun or for me to go to class or errands. Once the baby comes, then I am likely only driving it to take the kid somewhere or autox events.
To give my eyes a break in between work (till I get glasses) I am doing small things on the car. I am going to put in my door screws today. So that wraps another item up. I am going to use some magic eraser and see what I can do with some of the plastic tarnish. If the weather stays like this for next week I am pulling the seats out to steam clean the carpet. I may order the stuff used to restore these seats to fix my side bolsters. My seats are in pretty good condition less that.
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Due to my driveway I have kept my splitters off. Since I was working on a new lip idea someone offered to buy them. So they are going to a new home. I look forward to someone actually getting to use them. Before mailing them off I took some comparison shots with my lip. I think I will mess around with a heat gun and see if I can get this camaro lip mounted up. I will likely paint it myself. Paintscratch.com sells spray cans of oem paint. I am thinking of getting that and the rubberizer primer to do my own coloring. I am thinking I will either use an epoxy to join the lip or rent a plastic welder.

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Re: Project CMS: Winter time and the drivin' is easy

Postby GT4times2 » Wed Mar 07, 2012 6:04 pm

They both look nice, but prefer the PS with the RPF1s. They are cheaper to replace, and easier to source than Volks, unless you want to go Varrstoens or Rotas. They look just like the Volk TE37s. I know Varrstoen has a nice variety of sizes/offsets for their 5x100 patterns. Here's the site.

http://varrstoen.com/blog/
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Re: Project CMS: Winter time and the drivin' is easy

Postby CMS-GT4 » Wed Mar 07, 2012 6:11 pm

I saw those. I think they actually look better because you can get the nicer face in a smaller size that volk only sells with the super wide sizes. I want light weight though, so its going to be authentic. I am trying to keep my unsprung weight as close to stock as I can while increasing my grip. 16lbs wheels + 23lb (245) tires puts me right at what my adrs were at with a 205 wide tire. The question will become if I keep the sportmax wheels. I like them, and they suit the car. I guess I will just wait till I do my brakes to decide. Then I sell the Z.
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Re: Project CMS: Winter time and the drivin' is easy

Postby athousandleaves » Wed Mar 07, 2012 6:47 pm

As for the battery, I know odessy's can be picky about how they are tricklecharged and that you need to leave at least the positive terminal connected to the car when charging but still they should last for about 3-6 years...
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They make some Li+ batteries that look interesting.
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