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Re: Project CMS: Winter time and the drivin' is easy

Postby CMS-GT4 » Thu Mar 08, 2012 3:03 pm

I have not looked at them. After price shopping, I am likely ending up with a yellow top again.

So I am trying to decide what to do with my suspension. I can either get softer springs, or I can see if I can trade it for something softer. I sort of would consider trading it plus cash with someone's stock suspension housing so I can make one that suits my needs.
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Re: Project CMS: Winter time and the drivin' is easy

Postby WarTowels » Thu Mar 08, 2012 3:35 pm

How much cash? 8)
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Re: Project CMS: Winter time and the drivin' is easy

Postby CMS-GT4 » Thu Mar 08, 2012 3:41 pm

Not sure yet but it would likely be enough to build another suspension. I paid around 1600 for them and they are still pretty low milage. I would even consider trading for a set of tein ss just to keep things simple.
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Re: Project CMS: Winter time and the drivin' is easy

Postby athousandleaves » Thu Mar 08, 2012 6:12 pm

I have some really low km Tein SS coils that I'd consider trading for HA's but I could see the shipping being a problem.
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Re: Project CMS: Winter time and the drivin' is easy

Postby CMS-GT4 » Thu Mar 08, 2012 6:33 pm

That is something I might consider. It would be nice if it was with someone closer though, cause its going to cost some bucks to ship that far. I am going to mess with them some more once my new battery gets here then I will start figuring out what I want to do.
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Re: Project CMS: Winter time and the drivin' is easy

Postby CMS-GT4 » Thu Mar 08, 2012 7:42 pm

I found this. I am going to play with my settings a little more and see what I can come up with before I decide they are too harsh for me.

I have a set of Tien HEs on my Nissan 240sx and they are great. Do you drive an FC or an FD? The spring rates for the FC are the same as the rates for my s14. The FD has a higher rate that is pretty stiff for the street.
Either way, its all about damping. When I first put in the suspension I thought it was over the top and would skip across the road when I hit bumps. It was because I had the damper too soft! Is sounds backwards but you need to control that really high spring rate. I run a setting of 7 clicks back from the hardest setting on the street. Some people even say that you can wear out the dampers faster if you run them too soft. I don't know about that but life was much better after I went from the Tein sugested setting of 11 clicks up to 7.


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Re: Project CMS: Winter time and the drivin' is easy

Postby athousandleaves » Fri Mar 09, 2012 3:36 pm

Where I live the roads are very rough so I completely agree with what you quoted there.
I found that for normal driving I had to set the dampening at a split ratio like 6 clicks for the front and 10 clicks for the rear and the driving was much more bareable.

I have a feeling that driving on full hard for a month or so was what finally gave me a slipped disc :(

Have you looked into just buying different weight springs from Tein? 6/4kg or 4/4kg might make it more daily drivable over the HA's. A friend of mine got the BC coilovers in a 12/12 setup, his car isn't running yet but I have a feeling he might regret going that stiff!
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Re: Project CMS: Winter time and the drivin' is easy

Postby CMS-GT4 » Fri Mar 09, 2012 3:47 pm

Tein said I can go down the 8kg front and 5kg in the rear w/o having to revalve them. That has been what I planed to do, but I am trying to make sure that is my issue before spending the money. I need to check and make sure my front sway bar isn't bound up, then I am going to adjust my dampning to see if that resolves it.
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Re: Project CMS: Winter time and the drivin' is easy

Postby CMS-GT4 » Wed Mar 14, 2012 12:06 am

So the battery came in and took the car out for a test. The HAs have a range of 16 clicks. Running on their suggested settings is too rough. Running on 1 does not dampen enough. I am running on 12 in the front and 14 in the rear. Its been a while since I rode on A firmer setting. The car did feel different. Its dealing with the bumps better though. I think I may be a click away from the optimal street setting on these. So I will be able to likely make them work for me. There is a chance I may go down to a softer spring still, but I think I can make these good enough for the road as is.

I started steam cleaning my carpet as well. Its looking much better though I have a couple of stains I need to figure out how to remove. One rust colored one in particular.

I also cut my lip in half today. I purchased a diamond cutter for my dremel to get a clean cut. This lip is a lot wider than my car, so cutting it in half will make it easier for me to get one side sorted out and centered then I can make a final cut on both sides to make it meet in the middle. I am still debating on what method I am going to use to mold it. I was going to mount it with its natural curve but I think that the dip part is too far to the sides. This is if I was also going to cut the length of the lip.
NOTE: The sides are higher than they should be, but I had no one to help hold it so its resting on my wheel spoke.
Instead I think I am going to use a heat gun to get a new curve out of it that moves the dip towards the center and keeps me from having to cut the lip anymore. I can make it fit this way by holding it, but I think if I can use a heat gun on it I can prevent any future deformation. I need to go get some screws for mounting then I will start trying to figure this out.

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EDIT: Also this lip does not look bad on the back of the car, and it actually fits the curve better. I would only bother if I ran across another for a decent price.
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Re: Project CMS: Winter time and the drivin' is easy

Postby CMS-GT4 » Wed Mar 14, 2012 5:54 pm

Here is the amount of bend I took out with a little work from the heat gun. I can now wrap it on the bumper. I need to pick up some screws then I will see if I can git it. The right is the new curve.

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Re: Project CMS: Winter time and the drivin' is easy

Postby underscore » Wed Mar 14, 2012 6:20 pm

any pics of it on the rear?
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Re: Project CMS: Winter time and the drivin' is easy

Postby CMS-GT4 » Wed Mar 14, 2012 6:42 pm

I should have snagged one before I started bending it. I may give it a try if I don't have to bend it too far back.
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Re: Project CMS: Winter time and the drivin' is easy

Postby CMS-GT4 » Wed Mar 14, 2012 7:46 pm

Here you go. I had no one to help so I had to hold each side with one hand. A notch would need to be cut out for the exhaust.
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Re: Project CMS: Winter time and the drivin' is easy

Postby CMS-GT4 » Wed Mar 14, 2012 10:57 pm

So anyone have suggestions for getting power to something near the head interior light? I was going to tap into it, but I am not sure if the power that goes to the motor is continuous to the motor and interrupted by the relay or switched on 12v. I was thinking of tapping into my sunroof motor to power my radar detector.
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Here is a bgb page. It looks like its switched to the w-g wire then to the run roof relay.
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Re: Project CMS: Winter time and the drivin' is easy

Postby CMS-GT4 » Thu Mar 15, 2012 2:54 am

So I was messing with the lip tonight and decided to compare it to the pics. They only cut it on the center, not on the ends as well. I was scaling it up tonight and it ends in the same places. I think I want to mess with the end cap though as it has a bit more curve to it. I imagine some heat gun magic can square it up. Once I go get some mounting hardware I am going to get it fitted so I can cut it then paint it.

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