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Re: Project CMS: Autox pics

Postby CMS-GT4 » Tue Apr 17, 2012 2:47 am

So I had been working on cleaning my calipers. I have used dish soap, wire brushes, brake cleaner, etc... and I am still cleaning grime off of them. I am getting close though. I used a dremel and ground out the scratches on the front. I would almost strip the whole thing down to bare metal, but I want to just get it good enough to paint. I am not sure on color yet. I was sort of between red or gold for the calipers. I decided I am going to rebuild them before using them. I do not know the milage, and I would rather not take any risks when it comes to braking.
I am going to order ST205 front caliper overhaul kit, 04479-20260
So hopefully that will have me prepared for anything the car might need. I also have a new master cylinder I won for like a buck on ebay from an ex member here. They did not pack it well, and the rubber inside was exposed. Hopefully there is nothing to worry about. I am used to toyota stuff wrapped in plastic bags, but this had been opened.

I also started redrawing the alltrac shirt I started on so long ago. I am hoping to have this done soon so I can print myself on. I might make more if people are interested.
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Re: Project CMS: st205 brakes

Postby toayoztan » Tue Apr 17, 2012 3:08 am

Any chance for the CS edition?

I'd get a shirt.

Oh, and not sure how technical we are getting, but on the rear brakes, they are mounted on the rear side of the rotor, not the front side.

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Re: Project CMS: st205 brakes

Postby CMS-GT4 » Tue Apr 17, 2012 3:20 am

There will be a CS version as well. I will fix the rear brakes. lol. There is also a 165 version based on the shirt I am making for Legacy of Dan.
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Re: Project CMS: st205 brakes

Postby CMS-GT4 » Tue Apr 17, 2012 11:40 pm

So here are some quick mock ups for picking colors for the caliper. I am still sort of leaning towards black since these are so hard to clean, and then I can leave the inside alone and it will all still blend in.

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Re: Project CMS: st205 brakes

Postby toayoztan » Wed Apr 18, 2012 12:32 am

Black or the Gold.

I prefer a dark color too. I'll be doing my calipers in Bronze Florida Metallic, which is just black/dark grey with bronze metallic pearl as a topcoat.

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Re: Project CMS: st205 brakes

Postby Corey » Wed Apr 18, 2012 12:33 am

Black/charcol :smokes:

But the gold looks good also.
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Re: Project CMS: st205 brakes

Postby CMS-GT4 » Wed Apr 18, 2012 2:05 am

I am between the black and gold. I'll keep cleaning before I decide. I might wait to paint the fronts until I rebuild them. I need to read up on that first.
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Re: Project CMS: st205 brakes

Postby athousandleaves » Wed Apr 18, 2012 3:11 am

I'd say go for gold, that's what I wanted to do with mine when I get them on.

I hope you're not still considering mounting the brakes on the stock location and using an SVX or milled rotor; I've almost finished my bracket for the 205 calipers and have found that using the stock mounting ears is a dangerous way of mounting them!

Just have to do a few more CAD drawings and then I'll be making a post about the bracket & setup.
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Re: Project CMS: st205 brakes

Postby CMS-GT4 » Wed Apr 18, 2012 3:31 am

I am curious to see what you came up with and why you think stock mounting location is unsafe? I have not decided what I am doing yet, but I am trying to have my calipers and everything ready so I can do it all at once when I do know. I was hoping someone came up with a solution.
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Re: Project CMS: st205 brakes

Postby MWP » Wed Apr 18, 2012 5:57 am

Metallic silver (similar color to your body paint?) would work well.
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Re: Project CMS: st205 brakes

Postby Candy_GTFOUR » Wed Apr 18, 2012 1:17 pm

CMS-GT4 wrote:I am curious to see what you came up with and why you think stock mounting location is unsafe? I have not decided what I am doing yet, but I am trying to have my calipers and everything ready so I can do it all at once when I do know. I was hoping someone came up with a solution.

I second that, why are the stock mounting locations unsafe? everything I've seen as after market rotors and calipers is: impreza 2005 rotors (5by100 bolt pattern) with either wilwood calipers, brembo calipers, porsche (which are brembo) and a few other after market brands. They all had brackets to the stock mounting location..
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Re: Project CMS: st205 brakes

Postby athousandleaves » Wed Apr 18, 2012 1:47 pm

I have nothing against properly designed brackets mounted to the stock location, that's what my kit is employing.

Milling/modifying a rotor, caliper, ball joint or your hubs to mount the calipers is very unsafe.

I should be able to post a new thread by tonight discussing some of my findings and specs for my 205 kit which requires no milling, drilling or modding - just bolts on, rotor included!
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Re: Project CMS: st205 brakes

Postby Candy_GTFOUR » Wed Apr 18, 2012 1:59 pm

athousandleaves wrote:I have nothing against properly designed brackets mounted to the stock location, that's what my kit is employing.

Milling/modifying a rotor, caliper, ball joint or your hubs to mount the calipers is very unsafe.

I should be able to post a new thread by tonight discussing some of my findings and specs for my 205 kit which requires no milling, drilling or modding - just bolts on, rotor included!

AH! that being said,I think we misunderstood you then. Those things are made to spec for a reason so its normal that grinding down things that aren't supposed to causes a weakness. I'm going to see my buddy's boss who's an engineer machinist to make me some high quality brackets for the front and back.
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Re: Project CMS: st205 brakes

Postby athousandleaves » Wed Apr 18, 2012 3:02 pm

Candy_GTFOUR wrote:AH! that being said,I think we misunderstood you then. Those things are made to spec for a reason so its normal that grinding down things that aren't supposed to causes a weakness. I'm going to see my buddy's boss who's an engineer machinist to make me some high quality brackets for the front and back.


...or you could save yourself the trouble and just wait for my kit to be made available ;D
also the rears don't need any brackets made, just a 1 mm hub centering ring.
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Re: Project CMS: st205 brakes

Postby CMS-GT4 » Fri Apr 20, 2012 1:59 am

So based on the dimensions from this page the supra pads and the st205 pads are the same thickness. I was a bit concerned they might have thickness difference. This will make it easier when planning for rotors.
http://www.brakepartssuperstore.org.uk/ ... 11443.html

I have my calipers pretty much cleaned up and primered. I think I am just going to go with black. Its all going to match easier, and not look as dirty once they get more use in.

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