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Project CMS: BBK installation

Postby celigts » Wed Jul 25, 2012 7:43 pm

I've had this happen. A winter of salty roads will do it. I took a piece of 2x4 and layer it across the rim and hammered it all over to break the seal it had. Spacers where good tho. No problem with them.
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Re: Project CMS: BBK installation

Postby underscore » Wed Jul 25, 2012 8:21 pm

^ so you unbolted the spacer then bolted the rim back on for more leverage?
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Re: Project CMS: BBK installation

Postby CMS-GT4 » Wed Jul 25, 2012 8:23 pm

I tired that, but I just used my body weight to pull on the rim. Still stuck. I am going to go grab a hub puller tonight and mess with it.
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Re: Project CMS: BBK installation

Postby CMS-GT4 » Thu Jul 26, 2012 2:26 am

So the hub puller plus the socket I use for axle nuts was a solution for freeing this wheel spacer. I will put some anti seize on it next time, so they are easier to take off when I sell them. I was going to get the 5x114 adapters, but I am going to hold off until I get my next set of wheels so I know exactly what I need. At least one side of rear brakes goes on tonight. I will try and take the other side apart while I am in there.

EDIT: Based on Rene's site, .46mm thick strips are needed to fill the gap for the rotor and hub. He used .5mm. http://www.turbocelica.nl/541vs550mm.htm

From this we see that 26 gauge is .46mm, just for reference for those looking for metal.
https://docs.google.com/viewer?url=http ... _guide.pdf

I had already bought some .41mm strips, so we wil see if they work or not.
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Re: Project CMS: BBK installation

Postby CMS-GT4 » Fri Jul 27, 2012 1:30 am

Today's progress. One corner is done. Toyota crash bolts installed, braided brake line and st205 rears with new pads and center bore shim. Tonight I need to take apart the other side so I can put it together tomorrow.

This is the brass I got at lowes for shims. about 2.70 for 4. I used a whole piece and I cut a small bit off another to make a full circle. There were four strips and I will end up uses 2 1/3 for this project.
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EDIT: The other side came apart in no time now that I had a game plan. I will put it all back together tomorrow. Then the rear will be done.
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Re: Project CMS: BBK installation

Postby Landon » Fri Jul 27, 2012 6:09 am

Hey Josh, looking really good. I'm excited for you to get the fronts done as well. Hey might be too late, but if you really want to check your front ball joints the best thing to do is lift the wheels off the ground and try to squeeze the ball joint together with a pair of channel locks. If there is any movement it's bad. This it's specific to ball joints whereas moving the wheel is looking for bearing failure.
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Re: Project CMS: BBK installation

Postby CMS-GT4 » Fri Jul 27, 2012 2:00 pm

Thanks. I'll try out the bal joint once I get the fronts going.
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Re: Project CMS: BBK installation

Postby CMS-GT4 » Fri Jul 27, 2012 4:53 pm

And so now the rear is done. Honestly, converting the whole rear brakes etc... was a decent bit of work. Getting the first corner was the hardest since I had to hunt for tools in the right size, and read up on things to make sure I do not damage anything. I am sure the fronts will take me much longer since there is a hub change involved as well as possibly making a caliper bracket. I gave myself a couple weeks to do it. I may start today though.

BTW Here is the weight difference for 185 and 205.

185: rotor 10lb, caliper 6lb 14oz

205:rotor 13lb 5oz, caliper 6lb 7oz
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Re: Project CMS: BBK installation

Postby CMS-GT4 » Sat Jul 28, 2012 2:17 am

Any tricks for using a hub puller on a spindle that is out of a car? I have a spare axle, but I have no idea how to make it stick.
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Re: Project CMS: BBK installation

Postby DeeCee » Sat Jul 28, 2012 2:49 am

Picture? Not sure what you are referring to.
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Re: Project CMS: BBK installation

Postby CMS-GT4 » Sat Jul 28, 2012 2:54 am

I am using one of these, but the spindles is out of the car. I have an old axle, but not sure how to brace it.

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Re: Project CMS: BBK installation

Postby DeeCee » Sun Jul 29, 2012 7:32 am

well doing a bit of thinking, that hub puller would have popped the cv joint out first so not the easiest to remove the axle anyway.

You need to do this with a wheel bearing seperator kit or an actual press:
http://www.harborfreight.com/bearing-se ... 93980.html

I'm not exactly sure how you expected to get the bearing race off the old axle and on to the new one with out the seperator. Also, the hand held hydraulic unit isn't very good to actually install new bearings.

Talk with your local mechanic and get them to do the bearings and hub swap. Will save a hell lot of time and effort.
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Re: Project CMS: BBK installation

Postby CMS-GT4 » Sun Jul 29, 2012 3:14 pm

That was the problem I ran into, it kept popping the cv axle out. The instructions show it working this way, but it seems like a bad concept. I may have found a machine shop who can do all the work for me, for a fair price.
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Re: Project CMS: BBK installation

Postby CMS-GT4 » Sun Jul 29, 2012 7:10 pm

So I am not sure if this a common method, but it sure made this a whole hell of a lot easier. I needed to remove the axle nut, and with the wheels off it is fairly difficult, but I have done it before. I just installed my old wheels on the front and its comes off fairly easily. I never realized the hole in the center cap was large enough to fit this socket. I doubt I would use my good wheels to do this in case I slipped.
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Re: Project CMS: BBK installation

Postby AFCor » Sun Jul 29, 2012 8:59 pm

I really like your project and read it a lot. Most of the time I don't have any thing to add, you do such a good job. But, I recently had this very same problem. I tried everything I could think of to remove the axle and nothing worked. On my own I damaged the axle and had to spend even more money to get it fixed. I ended up taking it to a shop and they had it out in less than a day. I was then able to continue on my own.

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