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Re: Project Quadruped - More crap in the garage now (06/13)

Postby Dracov » Thu Jun 16, 2011 12:42 pm

Finally started to take the engine apart last night. Pulled off the intercooler, throttle body, all the cut coolant and vacuum hoses, alternator, a/c compressor and tensioner pulley.

I almost don't want to disassemble the engine because it's so nice and pretty...and not filthy. But, I refuse to trust a junkyard engine, now matter how pretty it is. :P Though there's a few broken VSVs and check valves, which I'll have to look up later. And the reverse light plug on the trans is broken. meh For now I'm just going to rip the engine apart and replace every single gasket, seal, hose and belt I can find
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Re: Project Quadruped - More crap in the garage now (06/13)

Postby UtahSleeper » Thu Jun 16, 2011 1:58 pm

That should make it so when the motor is installed, you wont have to worry about it again. This will be a bad ass upgrade.
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Re: Project Quadruped - More crap in the garage now (06/13)

Postby Terracar » Thu Jun 16, 2011 2:09 pm

Always a great idea to refresh the seals gasket while it is out - so much easier.

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Re: Project Quadruped - More crap in the garage now (06/13)

Postby Dracov » Thu Jun 16, 2011 9:29 pm

That's the plan! I don't want to have to EVER drop a motor from this machine again.

Anyone happen to know where to get oil and water pumps for a gen 3 motor? Or are they completely interchangeable? *lazy*
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Re: Project Quadruped - Disassemble Johnny 5! (07/02)

Postby Dracov » Sat Jul 02, 2011 6:16 pm

So, I'm a good taker-aparter of engines it seems. This is what's left!

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"Where's the rest of it?" you say? Well I...err wait, that stuff's IMPORTANT? ...crap.

Oh yeah, here it is!

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And I played around with my micrometer and took some measurements of the cams and this is what I came up with:

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And just for posterity...ST205 BGB sayeth thusly:

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So according to that, the exhaust cam already needs replacing. :P Not sure about dropping yet another $600ish on cams...even though the idea of something aftermarket would be nice. I'll worry about it later.
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Re: Project Quadruped - Disassemble Johnny 5! (07/02)

Postby wakkjobb » Sun Jul 03, 2011 12:55 am

You can't run 162 cams on that bad boy?
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Re: Project Quadruped - Disassemble Johnny 5! (07/02)

Postby DudeMan » Sun Jul 03, 2011 7:36 pm

How often do cams get worn down enough so they are no longer in spec?

I'm in the middle of an engine rebuild but I neglected to measure the cam lobes.. Does it really make a difference?

Looks like you have a fair bit of work ahead of you, good luck.

Though I have to say, I've thoroughly enjoyed freshening up my engine, definitely one of the 'funner' parts of the project.
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Re: Project Quadruped - Disassemble Johnny 5! (07/02)

Postby Dracov » Sun Jul 03, 2011 11:59 pm

Dan: 1st gen 3S cams won't fit any of the other generations. Plus they'd be a major downgrade even if they did fit.

As for how long until they're out of spec I have no clue. I just decided to get a full set of measurements on these to see what they're like. This engine's about 14 years old give or take.
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Re: Project Quadruped - Disassemble Johnny 5! (07/02)

Postby wakkjobb » Sat Jul 09, 2011 2:24 am

Dracov wrote:Dan: 1st gen 3S cams won't fit any of the other generations.


I say BS: I have a welder; we'll make em fit.

Look for bushings next week; finally got to the shop today and actually remembered to toss em in the car for postage business.

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Re: Project Quadruped - Beginnig reassembly (10/20)

Postby Dracov » Fri Oct 21, 2011 1:35 am

It's been far, far too long, but finally I have started piecing the ST205 engine back together!

First, two things I noticed when pulling the head: CRAP TONS of sludge on the pistons. No idea what was going on there. And, also, the original honing is still very, very intact. It's like this engine was transported through time from 1998 and suddenly manifested in 2010:

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Teehee, block serial number:
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Anyway. Parts that came in over the last monthish: ARP studs, a 3G 3S-GTE gasket kit, and Engle valve springs:
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I also picked up a Toyotool. I have to say I was pretty skeptical of it at first...I don't exactly have upper body strength. And the instructions for it are painfully uninformative. Regardless. Got the head setup with a chopped tennis ball holding the valves up and layed out the new stem seals:

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On the left, stock ST205 valve spring. Engle valve spring to the right:

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Tall freaking springs. It's like they're crawling their way out of the head!

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And with a little futzing around I get my first spring reinstalled!

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Half an hour later or so, all 16 springs, stem seals, retainers, shims, buckets and 32 tiny little keepers are back into place at last:

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In retrospect, I LOVE that valve tool! It's magnetized so you won't lose the keepers during disassembly, plus it works for installing the stem seals themselves. I'd recommend this to anyone over using the C-clamp style spring compressors. :)

Now that that's out of the way I can work on this more than I have been. Hoping to get her ready for winter.
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Re: Project Quadruped - Beginnig reassembly (10/20)

Postby wakkjobb » Fri Oct 21, 2011 3:07 am

Welcome to AT.net, you have to start an introduction thread before a build thread. :twisted:

Pics of this elated valve spring tool?

And I still haven't sent those bushings but I am looking at them right meow... sure are dusty.

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Re: Project Quadruped - Beginnig reassembly (10/20)

Postby Dracov » Fri Oct 21, 2011 12:36 pm

wakkjobb wrote:Welcome to AT.net, you have to start an introduction thread before a build thread. :twisted:

Pics of this elated valve spring tool?

And I still haven't sent those bushings but I am looking at them right meow... sure are dusty.

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Meow? You going pussy on us or something? :D

Valve tool is be at: www.toyotool.com

And if you're going to ship the bushings, better do it soon as I'm moving at the end of the month. If not just let me know and I'll tell you once I'm at the new address.
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Re: Project Quadruped - Beginnig reassembly (10/20)

Postby UtahSleeper » Fri Oct 21, 2011 3:58 pm

Bought time you start working on her again!!! lol, like I have room to talk. My 165 is still waiting for her time.

So, getting a house, or different reason for the move?

And what made you decide to rebuild the head since the motor looked to be in good shape.
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Re: Project Quadruped - Beginnig reassembly (10/20)

Postby Dracov » Fri Oct 21, 2011 5:50 pm

Because I don't trust anything. It's still a motor from a junkyard no matter how you look at it. And the last thing I need is to drop the engine in, bolt it all up, wire it in just to find out it's billowing oil smoke.

As for the move it's financial. Can't afford the place I'm at now so I have to downgrade :( But I AM getting a garage still! Though it also means I'll have to ditch the Supra. I can take one car with me, and one of them will be a lot easier to resurrect than the other.

Once this is done I'll have to track down new water and oil pumps for this thing...oh that's going to be so much fun, I can just see it.
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Re: Project Quadruped - Beginnig reassembly (10/20)

Postby UtahSleeper » Fri Oct 21, 2011 6:37 pm

That sucks. You selling the supra? Cost too much to store it somewhere?
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