Project Stormbringer - Slightly less disassembled! (07/29)

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Postby wakkjobb » Tue Sep 09, 2008 1:54 am

Nice fans :D and the BOV looks good too!

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Postby LegacyofDan » Tue Sep 09, 2008 5:04 pm

isnt that filter more of a air restriction rather than allowing more flow? granted its heat shielded, but what u save with the heat shielding u loose to the restriction of the filter? just my two cents :)

slick tho i like it bro :)
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Postby Kcman91gts » Tue Sep 09, 2008 7:06 pm

Yeah i used to use one of those heat shielded ones and they didnt work as great in a tight spot as an open filter .
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Postby Dracov » Tue Sep 09, 2008 11:05 pm

For the moment it's either crap filter or no filter at all. Given the choice, which would you use? :) As mentioned I did this just for the sake of getting it over with. Fine tuning will come later when I feel like it.

And even despite that, I hit full boost 200 RPM earlier now.
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Postby Dracov » Thu Sep 25, 2008 1:32 am

I told myself I would stop spending money on the Alltrac for a while...

...I'm such a liar.

Today, after fiddling around and scrounging parts from numerous places I put in two cheap little things; a RadioShack FCD, and a HomeDepot boost controller.

The FCD thingy baffled me for a moment as I saw what at first seemed to be the MAP sensor, but the stupid wire colours weren't matching my EWD...until I saw another sensor that looked identicle (3-wire plug, vacuum hose going to the intake plenum) with the right colours. Both are in the same area so I dunno offhand what that other one is supposed to be doing.

I left the MBC at it's lowest setting, but I guess the spring I picked up is a bit stiffer than what's normally used as I saw the telltale boost gauge hit 15PSI and I wasn't even at full throttle! And rather than get the embarassing feel of fuel cut kicking in I backed off from that point. This weekend I'll have to fiddle around with it so it behaves the way I want for now.

Yeah, I know, I'm easily amused from just a small power bump. :)
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Postby gpmarzan » Thu Sep 25, 2008 2:02 am

My radioshack made FCD sometimes does not work. I havent tested the voltage lately and have been running at 12 psi with the turbo pressure sensor vac hose plugged. Numerous members have had issues with theirs and it has been discussed that the AFM might also have fuel cut controls.
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Postby wakkjobb » Thu Sep 25, 2008 3:07 am

...on the AFM topic; isn't there a way.part to replace it with a MAF set-up? y'know, get rid of the unsightly vane-air meter? Thought I saw something about this, maybe it was on another board.
Dracov, I was getting worried about you; thought your 165 had swallowed you or something.

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Postby Denver_whiteST185 » Thu Sep 25, 2008 4:02 am

no, you can't replace it with a MAF. you need a piggy back with a map and IAT sensor, or a stand alone and a map & IAT sensor...

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Postby Dracov » Thu Sep 25, 2008 4:14 am

Supramania has a very detailed writeup on using a MAFT-Pro with an LS-1 MAF to remove their VAF. It should be doable on our setup since it's essentially the same sans 2 cylinders (7M-GE, not GTE).

But I'm in the middle of treating myself to a new computer so I'm not going to have that kind of money available for a while to come. That and the whole tuning-my-only-working-car thing...
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Postby wakkjobb » Fri Sep 26, 2008 12:36 am

wow, that all sounds ex$pen$ive... I don't really want that HUGE ASS VAM in my engine bay. Oh well, guess it's there to stay.

C'mon, Powerball!
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Postby Dracov » Fri Sep 26, 2008 12:49 am

Really depends...Maft-Pro runs $400ish on average...could probably get a used one for less. LS-1's are as common as anything, so parts for them aren't hard to come by, and usually not expensive. There's a way to run it in speed density configuration, but that would necessitate a wideband O2 as well.

Actually, found the link; http://www.supramania.com/forums/showthread.php?t=35302

It's tempting, but I'm definitely not trying it until next year at the earliest.
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Postby d1alltrac » Fri Sep 26, 2008 11:38 pm

It actually looks like that could work. I had previously dismissed the idea based on the assumption that all supras used karman vortex MAFs, but apparently the 7M-GE uses a flapper door AFM very similar to the 165.


It would be worth a shot, you should be our guinea pig. :D
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Postby wakkjobb » Sat Sep 27, 2008 12:01 am

Yeah, I am totally on board being the forum's guinea pig... as long as you all contribute; HEAVILY!!! :D
I tried working a 5MGE into my girl's 79 Toy truck (too long) and learned a bit about the 5 and 7MGE engines. I still have a VAM or two from that escapade. I'll just stick with the stock flapper and it'll probably end up as a permanent fixture after the car is done. Car... done. HA!
I sent away for the Spal fans that were/are in the used section. Hooray, cooling!

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Postby wakkjobb » Tue Sep 30, 2008 10:53 pm

I know I teased you about having axles for you but there's a really good chance I'll be replacing mine this weekend, as in "I'm not working on Sundays anymore" kind of chance. Let me know if you're interested in coming down, but I'm about out of freebies to give away. :)

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Postby Dracov » Tue Sep 30, 2008 11:04 pm

That's fine by me. The longer you procrastinate the more financially recovered I become. :)
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