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Re: Build ST-185-0004608

Postby 88gt4DE » Mon May 24, 2010 10:41 pm

Nice work man ... engine bay and motor very very clean ... :notworthy:
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Re: Build ST-185-0004608

Postby soarer.jzz30 » Tue May 25, 2010 3:33 am

GT4RC wrote:did you use a wire wheel to do all that cleaning on your block? looks great.


I bought a block from a guy in michigan, he rebuilt it completely oem. new oil and water pumps, rings and bearings. he had it tanked and blasted them ceramic coated silver. so no, the block isn't done with a wire wheel. most everything else is though. it doesn't take much effort or time. the alt and a/c pump turned out awesome. I took off all the oem stickers just for a different look. plus I accidentally wheel'd them, so I had to anyways. :shrug:
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Re: Build ST-185-0004608

Postby soarer.jzz30 » Thu Jun 10, 2010 5:12 am

So i have been very hard at work on this thing the last week. I dropped the old block out of the bottom effectively swaying the trans enough so that the propeller shaft came out and all the trans fluid came out. So that sucks because it looked golden and in good condition. oh well, just another thing to add to the list. I pre-fitted the turbo and downpipe (tight ass fit) I have had to modify my a/c lines in order for the DP to fit, and also cut a notch out of the alt mounting bracket in order for it to clear the manifold. I really hate ebay sometimes, I take that back, just some of the sellers quality and what they call "direct fit". most of us have experienced that at one time or another though. I don't want to use the stock manifold, because I want a little bling under the hood, plus it is equal length, and in my mind it works sell with the "twin entry" ct-26. whatever, I'm no engineer.

I have used the 165 harness for spare connectors and it's working out well. I used the AFM plug off it and now mine is about a foot longer :D :D :D
I used the injector clips and extended mine about 2.5" a piece. Also extended the TPS and whatever the thing is under the throttle about 8"-10". the reason I am extending most of the wires that run along the inside of the intake mani is because I am routing it behind it instead to ease up on installation and hopefully get less heat=less resistance to get better readings. That's my theory anyhow. Plus I think it will look cleaner. I am trying to do a minor wire tuck a the moment as well, but it seems that I would have to extend the entire drivers side of the harness in order to run it along the trans and up the frame rails in a tidy fashion. I might just clean it up and see what can be done with what is there. I have lot's of clips to mount it just about anywhere, So good luck to me there. :shock: :doh: :shrug:

I deleted the VSV for the EGR plug, T-VIS actuator plug, the other green plug on the TVIS bracket, I can't remember what it is at the moment. I was going to clip the EGR-T plug as well, but I am not sure if I want to add the resistor there or perhaps at the ECU. The car is california spec so it has a EGR temp sensor. i am still not fully sure what ohm resistor to put or where. I have read a few threads on EGR removal and no one has told me exactly where and what to do in order to fool the ECU.
I figured out I have a heat shield form a mk3 supra that will bolt to my exhaust housing, I just had to cut off a small section to clear the A/C and DP. I wire wheel'd it pretty good I don't know if I should do the ceramic coat in silver or not, it might just burn off anyways. If I don't, then it will just rust after a few months anyways? :shrug: what to do what to do....

As for now I still cannot afford my head gasket, my soarer open diff took a dump last weekend after one too many clutch kicks. It's okay, I was running on a 4.10 gear diff form my auto still, I found a good 5 speed 3.7 gear for $225. But I did manage to sell a few spare parts I had laying around from my lot of parts I have, enough to get a spare dipstick and another fuel rail with injectors and good seals for a good price. I figure it is cheaper to get a rail and injectors for only $10 more than I would've paid for new seals. I know I'm cheap, my budget just got cut short by my DD soarer. I think it is jealous, but it shouldn't be, I just put a new clutch kit in it. With a stage two 6 puck disc!!

On any note, I will have pics of the harness mounted on the engine later this week after I am done with a few more things, then off to the chassis for fitting and extending even MORE!! :shoots: :shoots: :shoots:
Still have to make a bracket to mount the harness to the mani. I think I will use some 12 GA steel and use the mani stabilizer bar mounting points.

pics to come hopefully this weekend!!


Thanks for the compliments guys!
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Re: Build ST-185-0004608

Postby soarer.jzz30 » Thu Jun 10, 2010 9:02 pm

like I said... the old block is finally out for good. SOLD!
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after cleaning :) much better. too bad I am not using it!
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have to clean the PWS system and back of the trans as well.
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Re: Build ST-185-0004608

Postby soarer.jzz30 » Sun Jun 13, 2010 11:36 pm

Pre-fit turbo, ALT and heat shield, I still think I should do silver ceramic on it.

I hid the injector resistors in the right side box, looks nice, had to cut and hammer it to fit, I chipped some of the undercoat off, need to spray satin touch up. Looks at home there.

I am test fitting the harness, seeing where to extend more plugs to place the main parts slightly tucked. I know it's no where near a full tuck, I just want to make it flow a little better and keep out of the way plus easier to remove. I think this is about what it will look like when all goes back in... Still much to extend in order for it to be able to stay exactly where it is.
Also cleaned up the starter with the wire wheel + a polish, painted center black. very nice, on to the rest of the trans!!
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Re: Build ST-185-0004608

Postby alltracst185 » Mon Jun 14, 2010 1:17 am

Very nice progress :D
st185- HKS exhaust, Aussie mid pipe and custom 3" down pipe, Tial 50mm BOV, HKS 272 cams, HKS adj cam gears, custom FMIC, HKS GT3040, Tial 38mm wastegate, AEM ems, fully built bottom end, RC 1200cc injectors, at 25 lbs and almost complete :D
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Re: Build ST-185-0004608

Postby soarer.jzz30 » Mon Jun 14, 2010 4:23 am

more pics.
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I tried to hide everything as best I could. ok I suppose.
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Re: Build ST-185-0004608

Postby soarer.jzz30 » Wed Jun 30, 2010 5:48 pm

Next step is to drop the trans and clean it up a bit, along with the PWS system. maybe paint some brackets and clean every little thing I can. I need to find a 90-91 speed sensor piece that actually bolts to the trans. Everything else in the cable spins properly ( I tested it with a drill connected (spun to 20 mph) So the only thing left is that little part specific to 90-91's with analog speedo's. :x unless I can find one from another member then I will have to go to the dealer for that one. I will have pics of the trans pulled and everything cleaned this weekend
Thanks for following.
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Re: Build ST-185-0004608

Postby soarer.jzz30 » Tue Aug 10, 2010 5:23 pm

So I have news, l friend from mr2oc that lives down the street has decided to give me a 5s with a spun rod as a donor for a stroker kit. I am going to do a complete re-build on the gen2 block including new bearings pumps rings and main seals. I am still doing a bit of research on what needs to be machined to fit the 5s crank. so I have up for sale a complete gen1 engine with gen2 inake mani and exhaust mani with a useable twin entry ct26. the fuel system is nearly complete, injectors, rail and regulator. the dizzy, wires and plugs are there as well. you will need new valve cover rubber insulators. most of the seals are there in good shape. asking $550. good deal for a nearly complete re-built gen1 3s. i just need that amount to get most of the parts for my build. If you know anyone interested please PM me asap. thanks

He also had a JDM gen2 with a blown head gasket for sale. I am thinking about buying it and selling mine minus the alt bracket. any opinions?
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Re: Build ST-185-0004608 (re-built gen1 for sale)

Postby alternate.eago » Thu Jan 06, 2011 6:32 pm

I am wondering if you still have the rebuilt Gen 1 3s for sale. I'm interested, as I think my st165 has a blown headgasket... I you still have it for sale please let me know. I'm pretty local, so I could pick it up.
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Re: Build ST-185-0004608 (re-built gen1 for sale)

Postby soarer.jzz30 » Fri Jan 07, 2011 6:34 pm

pm sent
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Re: Build ST-185-0004608 (re-built gen1 for sale)

Postby alternate.eago » Fri Jan 07, 2011 8:18 pm

Replied (if It doesnt sit in my outbox forever).

Email may be quicker... Mine is my username at gmail.com.
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Re: Build ST-185-0004608 (re-built gen1 for sale)

Postby soarer.jzz30 » Sun May 29, 2011 1:11 am

Holy crap I dont know where to start.... so i broke down and sold the gen 1.... I had to clean up a 95 celica stx to sell I got for free. So I swapped out the 7afe for a used one. sold it for 2600!!! I did this to afford a 3 gen swap... :D I just took off the harness and I am going to take apart the original and rip out the accessory components of it. then take apart the gen3 harness and take out the accessories out of it and add the 185's. In that process I will extend half of the harness about 20" or so and cut the same off of half of the other side. Just so it fits properly and is converted for the RHD. this may seem like too much work and I should use the original and make it fit the gen3.... No. that seems redundent to me. My harness is saturated in oil and dirt, so it will just not do, not to mention all of the connectors have become brittle because of the old age, heat, and saturation. Why would I not want a newer harness and plugs? It belongs on that engine.... and the accessory harness belongs on the 185. So.... I will have pics up tommorow or monday of the rats nest I am going through. i will re-loom and tape everything very OEM and clean as well. i want it to look as though it came like that.... But actually be very close to how it would have been done from the factory or a professional harness conversion anyhow!!! 8) So I will keep posting progress in the coming weeks getting this thing going.
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Re: Build ST-185-0004608 (another gen3 swap)

Postby soarer.jzz30 » Fri Jul 08, 2011 5:54 pm

I will be posting pictures this weekend of all the progress. there is much to be said about this swap and all it entails that I have learned. but right now I am at a stand still, I have been trying to crank it over, no fire at all. BUT, there is perfect spark and injector pulse? I Grounded a test light and put the other side to the black and orange wire form the resistor pack and it pulsed just fine. I have fuel, so what the heck is the problem? hmmm. I will check and make sure the injectors are plugged to the right ones, and then on to compression and plug condition, then timing if all else fails... I emptied out all the old fuel and put in new 93 today as well, new fuel filter too. Any ideas anyone? this thing is close to starting I know it!
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Re: Build ST-185-0004608 (another gen3 swap)

Postby UtahSleeper » Fri Jul 08, 2011 8:35 pm

So, you sold one trac to get another trac? I am confused lol.
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