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project st205 engine swap.

Postby sonochevelle » Fri Feb 04, 2011 3:02 am

i bought this car in arizona from a friend for $1000 who bought the car intending to get it running, the car has 80k miles with a seized engine/turbo which leads me to believe the owner ran it out of oil. i would say the interior is in good condition but needs some tlc. the exterior would be ok but the rf fender is kinda bashed in and by the looks of it somebody tryed to fix it with a ball peen hammer. thankfully my dad does bodywork so it should be no problem.

heres a pic its from my phone and the lighting is terrible and the car is super dirty/snowy but its the best i got.
gotta love the Minnesota cold

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Re: project st205 engine swap.

Postby sonochevelle » Fri Feb 04, 2011 3:15 am

ill be getting an st205 engine/trans/ecu/harness from JDMSOURCE in calgary for $1700. these are the pictures of the engine that they sent me.

apparently they have included an HKS airfilter. which is pretty sweet

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Re: project st205 engine swap.

Postby sonochevelle » Fri Feb 04, 2011 3:44 am

2/3/11 - radiator out, electrical connections off, harness run through firewall, vacuum/fuel lines off,clutch cables off, front brakes off, steering knuckle disconnected, exhaust is hanging(cant remove it completely)

found that the the other person that owned this car removed the factory muffler and made the exhaust a 1 piece from the midpipe all the way to the tip.. so it has a 2.5" strait pipe. kinda nervous as to how loud its gonna be.
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Re: project st205 engine swap.

Postby sonochevelle » Sat Feb 05, 2011 2:15 am

2/4/11 - removed the cv axles and prop shaft removed alt. pwr steering, and ac compressor, supported engine with the cherry picker, removed the lower cross member, and engine mounts lowered the engine and wiggled/jerked/pryed/cussed the dam thing out of the engine bay. got the engine on the ground and strapped up the core support with a ratchet strap, and got the car high enough to pull the engine out from underneath.

i am working all by myself so getting this engine out was extremely difficult for me. this is also only the second engine i have removed from a car newer than 1980..

heres the pics for the day they are with my camera phone so sorry if they are crappy


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Re: project st205 engine swap.

Postby CMS-GT4 » Sat Feb 05, 2011 2:28 am

Do your clutch upgrade now. Don't regret not doing it like me.
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Re: project st205 engine swap.

Postby bloodMoney » Sat Feb 05, 2011 2:50 am

^Agreed. I had to pull my motor set 6 months after dropping in a JDM engine set to replace the clutch......
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Re: project st205 engine swap.

Postby sonochevelle » Sat Feb 05, 2011 3:05 am

unfortunaly i cant afford it at the moment, im running into lots of little things that are bad. tie rods, balljoints, all the axle boots, rack and pinion boots, motor mounts....

since it was an az car there is zero rust but everything that is made of rubber is totally garbage
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Re: project st205 engine swap.

Postby sonochevelle » Wed Feb 09, 2011 10:49 pm

PARTS!
speed-source mounts and stainless clutch line!!

question for the mounts.. one of the bushings has a thicker lip and insert than the others. does this one go in the front or rear?

the one on the left?
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Re: project st205 engine swap.

Postby sonochevelle » Sat Feb 12, 2011 7:00 am

02/11/10 - today i started tearing into my engine to get it ready to drop in.
started by removing the alternator and a/c compressor so i can get to the downpipe/catalytic converter.
i ordered a berk downpipe to replace it.
removed the intake mani to get to the wiring harness underneath it.
removed the wiring harness labeling each connector.

it was a snowy day :D

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harness off

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im going to be using the oem harness. my plan is to painstakingly unpin the ecu connectors and whatnot, plug in the sensors to their location and route the wires where they need to go.

i have started by drawing the connectors, labeling each pin with a description and wire colors

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i know im :crazy: but im up for the challenge and have more time than money.
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Re: project st205 engine swap.

Postby sMARTINside » Sat Feb 12, 2011 10:35 am

I am preparing a ST205 swap into my 1990 ST185, so I have a lot of information about the wiring that could help you. I will get back to you on this.
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Re: project st205 engine swap.

Postby sonochevelle » Sat Feb 12, 2011 2:42 pm

sMARTINside wrote:I am preparing a ST205 swap into my 1990 ST185, so I have a lot of information about the wiring that could help you. I will get back to you on this.


that would be really helpful thanks
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Re: project st205 engine swap.

Postby sMARTINside » Sat Feb 12, 2011 8:40 pm

Here is the content of a Excel file that I made concerning the ECU Connectors and the dash connectors beside the ECU, in the cockpit.

The ST205 and ST185 (1990 Canadian Alltrac pinouts)
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The wires going out from the fuse box to the left fender (some By EA1 connector and some are beside it and are cut)
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The dash connectors beside the ECU (Randomly numbered):
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Sorry for some french...
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Re: project st205 engine swap.

Postby sonochevelle » Sat Feb 12, 2011 8:50 pm

wow that is amazing!!!!!! :shock: :notworthy:
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Re: project st205 engine swap.

Postby sonochevelle » Sun Feb 13, 2011 12:19 am

wiring harness is apart.
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Re: project st205 engine swap.

Postby sonochevelle » Sun Feb 13, 2011 11:55 pm

MADE MYSELF A SHORT SHIFTER WOOT WOOT!!

took the shifter out,
removed all the plastic stuff.
drilled the pinch on the side of the main ball,
cut the shifter shaft about 3/4 inch above the main ball,
used a press to move the ball up the lower shaft about 1 1/8 inch,(the shaft in now recessed 3/8 inch into the ball)
welded the shaft to the ball in the recession as well as where i drilled the pinch,
cut the upper shaft another 1/2 inch,
put upper shaft into the recession that is left after the weld, welded upper shaft to the main ball,
got 1/2 inch longer bolts for the base,
added 1/2 inch spacers for each bolt on the bottom side of the base.

VOILA!! short throw shifter FOR FREE!!

i also had to mod the shifter base itself because the cable hits the sides of the base in 5th and 1st gear.
cut out 2 inch by 1 1/2 inch from each side where it hit made a piece of steel and triangulated it out a bit and welded it back together.

i'm gonna have my mommy sew me up a swede shifter boot that fits the new shifter!
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