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Re: FWDLOL!

Postby klue » Mon Feb 25, 2013 9:47 pm

Its important to note that Kyles car is a FWD car(at least 400lbs lighter), and has a lot of weight reduction. Its also corner balanced so the loading vs a stock alltrac is going to be a lot different. The alltrac is a front heavy pig at least 60-65% of the weight is on the front. Im not sure how that effects the loading of these balljoints and parts we are considering
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Re: FWDLOL!

Postby k.beaty » Tue Feb 26, 2013 1:05 pm

klue wrote:Its important to note that Kyles car is a FWD car(at least 400lbs lighter), and has a lot of weight reduction. Its also corner balanced so the loading vs a stock alltrac is going to be a lot different. The alltrac is a front heavy pig at least 60-65% of the weight is on the front. Im not sure how that effects the loading of these balljoints and parts we are considering



Good points Luke. My car has probably more front end weight percentage than the alltrac because I am missing a driveshaft, rear diff, subframe, axles, etc. Just because I corner balance my car doesn't mean I have equal weight distribution to all 4 corners. The reality is, it's near impossible to get the weight off the front end of a FF car.

Its completely up to the car owner whether or not they want to make their own roll center adjusters, or trust their abilities to make a part that could fail. But Martin used these on his Alltrac, and I've been using them for 2 years now with no issues. Comparing these to a stock ball joint will make it apparent that they are quite strong. The make the OEM balljoint look tiny. The thought has never even crossed my mind about having one of these fail, and I have no reason to think so.
Plus they look angry as f*** under there, and I can make my car low and have the roll center not get all fucky!

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Re: FWDLOL!

Postby CMS-GT4 » Tue Feb 26, 2013 3:22 pm

Do you have part numbers for that bearing and that ball joint pin?
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Re: FWDLOL!

Postby 88st165 » Tue Feb 26, 2013 5:56 pm

k.beaty wrote:I built a new lip yesterday. This one hangs a little bit lower than the old one and is reinforced so that it helps with front aero more and doesn't flex at high speeds. It also makes the car look mean!

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What material did you use for this lip? Looks great and very rigid.
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Re: FWDLOL!

Postby klue » Tue Feb 26, 2013 10:14 pm

So maybe im missing the point of corner balancing lol....

that looks like it wont accommodate any big brakes :(

dont forget to bring my your spare so i can check it out sunday
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Re: FWDLOL!

Postby k.beaty » Wed Nov 06, 2013 3:46 pm

Well, I figure I'll update this for those of you interested in how this season went. I made it out to a ton of events and got lots of seat time. It was a blast and I learned a ton. I'm going to use this momentum to carry me through the winter and into the 2014 season. I'm not entirely sure which series I'll be racing next season as I am VERY outclassed in CSCS. I'm going to be sticking with the 5SFE for 2014 and will continue to support CSCS if the rule changes allow for me to be in a more competitive class. However, if the rules stay the way they are I'm going to give Ontario Time Attack a shot. They have a much more fair classing system, and enforce their rules to keep cheating to a minimum. Although there isn't as much publicity around OTA, it'll give me a much better shot at a class championship. I'm really looking forward to 2014!

As for work on the car over the winter, the big thing is going to be paint. At a practice day before the last event of the season, I broke a rear control arm and it turned the car hard to the right. I managed to bounce the car off the wall, but keep the damage to a minimum. The car just needs a quick pull to get the body panels all lined up again, and then it'll be painted. It only bent slightly behind the rear wheels, so nothing is structural. The damage is purely cosmetic.

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I don't want to have anything break again, so I am going to re-do the rear suspension. This time, using 1-1/4" aluminum radius rod, oppose to the 3/4" stuff that I had on there before. I believe that the arm broke strictly from fatigue. It is 16" long, and relatively small tube so I imagine it was flexing and finally after 2 years of abuse, something had to give. I'll be keeping an eye on the new stuff to ensure we don't have an incident like this again.

That's about it for the winter plans. I'm going to pick up some spare wheels and tires because they're handy to have, but other than that, just focus on getting the car pulled apart for paint and make sure everything is done proper. I'll re assemble the car in the spring and do a nut and bolt check on everything in prep for a busy 2014!

I'll leave you with some pictures from this season:

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Re: FWDLOL!

Postby underscore » Wed Nov 06, 2013 6:15 pm

Wall tapping with a FWD car, nicely done haha. I really wish I could have access to those kinds of racing opportunities around here. Ah well.
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Re: FWDLOL!

Postby k.beaty » Wed Nov 06, 2013 6:24 pm

underscore wrote:Wall tapping with a FWD car, nicely done haha. I really wish I could have access to those kinds of racing opportunities around here. Ah well.


Thanks, haha!

My brother actually lives in Vancouver, BC. It's gorgeous there! Although I love going to visit, I don't see myself ever moving for the lack of race tracks out that way. I'd love to drive my Celica out one time to bomb through the mountains, though!
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Re: FWDLOL!

Postby underscore » Wed Nov 06, 2013 6:53 pm

We're slowing getting more in the area, but most of them aren't within good enough range to just be a day trip. That and so far as I can tell they've all got fairly heavy equipment requirements for racing (safety gear wise). The mountains are awesome though, I would never be able to live on the flats.
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Re: FWDLOL!

Postby CMS-GT4 » Wed Nov 06, 2013 7:59 pm

I emailed TRD about that GT2 car, but they did not know anything and only handle the sponsorship. I wonder if we might find out who is running the TC race teams and look at their suspension setups.
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Re: FWDLOL!

Postby k.beaty » Wed Nov 06, 2013 8:16 pm

CMS-GT4 wrote:I emailed TRD about that GT2 car, but they did not know anything and only handle the sponsorship. I wonder if we might find out who is running the TC race teams and look at their suspension setups.



I've done lots of research on the Toyota Pro/Celebrity Celica's from back in the day and know what they used for suspension. What information are you looking for in terms of suspension setups. They can vary so much depending on race track, weather, tires etc. The best thing to do is find a starting point, and fine tune to your liking.
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Re: FWDLOL!

Postby CMS-GT4 » Wed Nov 06, 2013 8:30 pm

You had asked me about that widebody race car on instagram, so I tried to look into it some. As for my application, I had been looking for an already made extended ball joint solution, but I am about giving up and likely going to fabricate something come next year.
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Re: FWDLOL!

Postby k.beaty » Wed Nov 06, 2013 8:35 pm

CMS-GT4 wrote:You had asked me about that widebody race car on instagram, so I tried to look into it some. As for my application, I had been looking for an already made extended ball joint solution, but I am about giving up and likely going to fabricate something come next year.



Oh! That yellow widebody hill climb car is bad ass. I'd love to find more info on it.
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Re: FWDLOL!

Postby CMS-GT4 » Wed Nov 06, 2013 9:24 pm

I didn't mean the Yellow one. I meant the white one posted on IG. That was an old GT2 SCCA car.
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Re: FWDLOL!

Postby Droptop93 » Sat Nov 09, 2013 11:35 pm

Looks good! Keep it up Kyle.
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