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Re: 1988 Alltrac - Fiona - Engine dismantle

Postby 88gt4DE » Thu Feb 27, 2014 2:17 am

Oh , I missed that. Sorry long day. Thought that was on the re-use list. :doh: Kewl. Keep us updated ;)
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Re: 1988 Alltrac - Fiona - Engine dismantle

Postby UtahSleeper » Thu Feb 27, 2014 2:22 am

88gt4DE wrote:Oh , I missed that. Sorry long day. Thought that was on the re-use list. :doh: Kewl. Keep us updated ;)


Will do. Hope to get quotes soon. I am just scared lol. I am afraid it will cost a crap ton more then a used motor, which would cause me to rethink. Price also determines hpw quick I get this going, with wedding and bills getting paid off.
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Re: 1988 Alltrac - Fiona - Engine dismantle

Postby 88gt4DE » Thu Feb 27, 2014 2:26 am

UtahSleeper wrote:
88gt4DE wrote:Oh , I missed that. Sorry long day. Thought that was on the re-use list. :doh: Kewl. Keep us updated ;)


Will do. Hope to get quotes soon. I am just scared lol. I am afraid it will cost a crap ton more then a used motor, which would cause me to rethink. Price also determines hpw quick I get this going, with wedding and bills getting paid off.


Yeah , I went through it , and then went through it again which pissed me off but at least it wasn't a full re-build. If it happens again It will be down for prol a year while i do a 205 swap.
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Re: 1988 Alltrac - Fiona - Engine dismantle

Postby UtahSleeper » Tue Sep 16, 2014 3:08 am

Well, small update. She is about to go into build mode now that my Corolla is down for an extended period of time. Things that are being done or about to be done are as follows:

-Block and crank was taken to machine shop today
-Need to order rebuild items(pistons, gaskets, etc)
-Need front wheel bearings
-Install the Aeroform kit :)
-Finish cleaning the engine bay
-Exhaust(Since PO made it all one piece)
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Re: 1988 Alltrac - Fiona - 4th gen 3sgte enroute

Postby UtahSleeper » Wed Sep 17, 2014 5:05 pm

Well, turned out my crank was toast on my original motor. Instead of trying to find a good one and keep using a motor that is the first gen, I decided to get a 4th gen motor :)

So, making a note for myself and posting links to ST215/3sgte related stuff.

http://www.caldina.org/Documents/CaldinaElectrical.pdf

Replacement parts: http://www.primemr2.com/

Wiring(In case I dont try it myself): http://www.wiregapinc.com/

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Re: 1988 Alltrac - Fiona - 4th gen 3sgte enroute

Postby 760gt4 » Wed Sep 17, 2014 6:44 pm

Nice. Where are you planning on getting the motor from? I'm gonna do a gen4 motor with and st205 trans in my st165 probably later next year.
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Re: 1988 Alltrac - Fiona - 4th gen 3sgte enroute

Postby UtahSleeper » Wed Sep 17, 2014 6:59 pm

metaldude21 wrote:Nice. Where are you planning on getting the motor from? I'm gonna do a gen4 motor with and st205 trans in my st165 probably later next year.


The seller is japan_star_motor on eBay. No bad reviews that I could see and they were quick to reply to my messages prior to purchase.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/261596205208?_trksid=p2059210.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

So, initial impression is good. I will know more when I actually get the product. Seems I should get the motor no later then Oct 1.
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Re: 1988 Alltrac - Fiona - 4th gen 3sgte enroute

Postby 88gt4DE » Thu Sep 18, 2014 11:16 am

I'll be watching this close. Keep us posted :wink: Make sure all the crap shows up like the map sensor and others ... Heard alot of people getting the whole setup and missing that sensor for some reason ...
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Re: 1988 Alltrac - Fiona - 4th gen 3sgte enroute

Postby UtahSleeper » Thu Sep 18, 2014 2:32 pm

88gt4DE wrote:I'll be watching this close. Keep us posted :wink: Make sure all the crap shows up like the map sensor and others ... Heard alot of people getting the whole setup and missing that sensor for some reason ...


Thanks. I will try and keep an eye out on that.
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Re: 1988 Alltrac - Fiona - 4th gen 3sgte enroute

Postby MWP » Sun Sep 21, 2014 8:31 am

Can see the MAP sensor clearly in the photos of it.

Engine might not have had the easiest life, BLITZ oil cap and blue silicone hoses means someone has had a play with it.
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Re: 1988 Alltrac - Fiona - 4th gen 3sgte enroute

Postby UtahSleeper » Sun Sep 21, 2014 4:30 pm

MWP wrote:Can see the MAP sensor clearly in the photos of it.

Engine might not have had the easiest life, BLITZ oil cap and blue silicone hoses means someone has had a play with it.


Yea, I noticed that afterwards lol. Guess I will have to wait and see now.
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Re: 1988 Alltrac - Fiona - 4th gen 3sgte enroute

Postby zaluss » Mon Sep 22, 2014 2:58 pm

UtahSleeper wrote:Well, turned out my crank was toast on my original motor. Instead of trying to find a good one and keep using a motor that is the first gen, I decided to get a 4th gen motor :)

So, making a note for myself and posting links to ST215/3sgte related stuff.

http://www.caldina.org/Documents/CaldinaElectrical.pdf

Replacement parts: http://www.primemr2.com/

Wiring(In case I dont try it myself): http://www.wiregapinc.com/


Thanks for these links. All bookmarked. I'll be watching this thread closely as I'm about ready to order my 3rd Gen 3SGTE.
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Re: 1988 Alltrac - Fiona - 4th gen 3sgte enroute

Postby MWP » Wed Sep 24, 2014 2:01 am

Dont forget my site :P
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Re: 1988 Alltrac - Fiona - 4th gen 3sgte enroute

Postby UtahSleeper » Wed Sep 24, 2014 2:31 am

MWP wrote:Dont forget my site :P
http://gt4.mwp.id.au


My bad lol. I actually found your site and copied a few things so I dont lose them. Good info.
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Re: 1988 Alltrac - Fiona - 4th gen 3sgte enroute

Postby UtahSleeper » Fri Sep 26, 2014 7:37 pm

Well, small update.

Ordered the engine Thursday, got it Wednesday. Very quick shipping!!!
No over abundance of oil in the intake, but a thin, oily layer on the turbo intake and outlet.
Think the timing belt had been replaced, or is just in really good shape.
Aside from dirt and grime, the exterior looks great.
The IC has seen WAY better days. May have to try and find a new one, but the current should work for initial starting.

So, I filled out and printed off an order form for mr220 and hope to package and ship my harness this weekend or early next week.

While waiting for that I will try and do the following:
Stiffen up the east/west mounts.
Figure out how to mount the passenger side mount.
Get my flywheel/clutch and transmission mounted(I assume I need an alignment tool).
Rebuild and install the original PS pump as I dont want to redo the hoses to use the new pump.

Anything I am missing?

And I know alot of people like to crack open a used motor, and I understand why, but I am planning to just drop this motor in and hope it runs well enough :) Whats the worst that happens, its toast? I wont truly know this till after the warranty us probably up anyway lol.

I will try and post pictures later.
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