1988 Alltrac - Fiona - Running and doing just fine

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Re: 1988 Alltrac - Fiona v2

Postby UtahSleeper » Tue Mar 13, 2012 6:11 pm

Found a few little issues to address from brief poking. I know I will find more and just trying to document as I go.

EGR appears to be removed....but not block off plate
Vacuum lines look shot
Couple missing valve cover screws
Clutch slave does not have line securely screwed in
Starter is not securely mounted
Oil return line is not secured
Crappy hose clamps used on fuel lines

I think I am going to have to spend some time browsing pics here and the BGB to get this put back together the right way.
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Re: 1988 Alltrac - Fiona v2

Postby Redrkt01 » Wed Mar 14, 2012 11:36 am

My personal opinion is that the first tool any ST165 owner should have is the BGB. It's more important than any wrench you have in the garage.
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Re: 1988 Alltrac - Fiona v2

Postby UtahSleeper » Wed Mar 14, 2012 4:55 pm

Which I have :) So I will be spending some time reading in the coming weeks.
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Re: 1988 Alltrac - Fiona v2

Postby Redrkt01 » Wed Mar 14, 2012 5:43 pm

UtahSleeper wrote:Which I have :) So I will be spending some time reading in the coming weeks.


That's good. I read a thread recently, unsure if it was here or not, about a guy that was trying to trouble shoot without one. GLWT!
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Re: 1988 Alltrac - Fiona v2

Postby UtahSleeper » Sun Mar 18, 2012 3:21 am

So, I have started poking around the car and removing items that will be cleaned/replaced/repaired. This car has had alot of attempted upgrades and such and it has just become a cluster of an interior and engine bay. So, my goal is to strip it down to stock and also remove anything I think can be. So, here are some pics of what I have seen and done.

How the engine bay looked at the start of my pulling.
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Part of the hacked harness and other mess.
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Found this and learned it was someones half ass attempt to have a working heater, I assume.
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Wiring and random switches.....
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Random pics of what various previous owners have done.
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I believe these were "crossovers" for the system that use to be in.
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After the engine harness and fuel evap has been removed.
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The PS line that I cant seem to get bolted down. Think a previous owner rerouted it a bit when they got the radiator and decided against trying to secure it.
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Attempts at cleaning up the PS area. The return hose seems to press against the timing belt right now. Not sure if it was just pushed into a bad spot.
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Driver side, under dash wiring havoc. Remote start was the biggest mess there.
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And all the crap removed. Most items had the splice type plugs.
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Here is the remote start/alarm in a pile :)
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And how she sits, waiting for me to get her going.
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Re: 1988 Alltrac - Fiona v2

Postby Redrkt01 » Mon Mar 19, 2012 12:08 pm

Utah, depending if you decide to redo the interior or not.....I know of some people that may need some of the good leather parts you have. You just need to decide whether it is cheaper to recover those seats or not. There is a guy I know that needs blue leather rear seats so lemme know if you decide to switch it all out. I'm sure you'll be able to recover some $$ for those.
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Re: 1988 Alltrac - Fiona v2

Postby UtahSleeper » Mon Apr 02, 2012 4:33 am

Small update.

The front under dash wiring has been mostly cleaned up. Going to a junkyard this week to gather nuts and bolts for the interior and exterior.

Also found out today the front passenger bearing is toast, so have to fix that after I get her running.

Current plan is to replace the missing nuts and bolts under the hood, reconnect the PS and then install my cleaned up engine harness. May have to wait till I get a timing cover for the upper half of the motor since the PS return line seems to rest against the timing gear.
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Re: 1988 Alltrac - Fiona v2

Postby ZeroDrift » Mon Apr 02, 2012 4:45 am

Looks like you are making good progress! Keep at it!
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Re: 1988 Alltrac - Fiona v2

Postby Redrkt01 » Tue Apr 03, 2012 5:49 pm

So did you actually score an unmolested harness for the engine? Or did you "clean up" the one you had?
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Re: 1988 Alltrac - Fiona v2

Postby UtahSleeper » Tue Apr 03, 2012 6:11 pm

I found one the was mostley unmolested. Looks like it had the warm start mod on it and one missing plug. I replaced the plug and removed the old electric tape and retaped it. Should work for now. I eventually plan to go MS or AEM, so I am going to play around with the old harness when that time comes.
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Re: 1988 Alltrac - Fiona v2

Postby Redrkt01 » Tue Apr 03, 2012 6:16 pm

By the looks of that engine bay you've got a long way to go before you should spend the cash on a MegaSquirt or AEM unit. Just my .02
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Re: 1988 Alltrac - Fiona v2

Postby UtahSleeper » Tue Apr 03, 2012 7:23 pm

Yea. I am hoping to be approaching that option in 2 years. Right now the goal is to get her running with all the missing bolts/nuts replaced. Just hoping the motor and trans are in good shape. If they are I will be driving her enough to find out what else needs fixed lol.

Figured it was "running" before, so when I put it all back together it should still run as described by 2 previous owners..............but I have never heard it run so I am expecting things not to be as described.
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Re: 1988 Alltrac - Fiona v2

Postby Dracov » Tue Apr 03, 2012 9:27 pm

I'm going to feel so bad if you get this running before I finish resurrecting mine. :) You're making good progress!
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Re: 1988 Alltrac - Fiona v2

Postby UtahSleeper » Tue Apr 03, 2012 11:57 pm

Dracov wrote:I'm going to feel so bad if you get this running before I finish resurrecting mine. :) You're making good progress!


Thanks. I would like to atleast try and start it by the end of the month. Thats my goal anyway lol.
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Re: 1988 Alltrac - Fiona v2

Postby UtahSleeper » Tue Apr 10, 2012 12:40 am

Small update:

Decided I liked the indiglo lights, but couldn't stand the way the controls were mounted. So I used one previously done hole for brightness knob and opened another hacked hole for the blue/green switch. A little sloppy since I didn't think through, but I need a new under dash piece anyway.
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Got the slightly cleaned up harness installed......mostly.
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Found these when searching through the pile of stuff that was crammed in this car. Any ideas?
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Got the injectors out of a ziplock and put new o-rings and such on. Tried to install but then realized the FP reg and cold start injectors did not have gaskets installed.........not really surprised with how many odds and ends have been missing lol.
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So, next plan of attack is buy a shit load of orings and little washer gasket type things. Really hoping to try and start her by the end of the month.
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