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Re: 1988 Alltrac - Fiona - 4th gen 3sgte enroute

Postby UtahSleeper » Tue Feb 24, 2015 5:07 pm

Well, small update.

My fuel pump seems to be dying. Can start the car, but it takes awhile sometimes and the car doesn't rev easily. So, plan on replacing that in the coming weeks with a walbro and then hope I can aim at getting her registered.
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Re: 1988 Alltrac - Fiona - 4th gen 3sgte enroute

Postby 82te72 » Mon Mar 09, 2015 5:54 am

Hey, i remember you from the 3tc forums.

i just read through the last half of your build. I plan to be doing something very similar with mine that i just picked up.

any recommendations for doing the swap?
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Re: 1988 Alltrac - Fiona - 4th gen 3sgte enroute

Postby UtahSleeper » Tue Mar 10, 2015 12:43 am

82te72 wrote:Hey, i remember you from the 3tc forums.

i just read through the last half of your build. I plan to be doing something very similar with mine that i just picked up.

any recommendations for doing the swap?


Not sure on any recommendations as this was pretty straightforward lol. I paid to have the harness done and everything else was bolt on except need to replace the passenger side mount location with the 1st gen motor. It was amazingly easy with the wiring taken care of.

Also, buy 2nd gen flywheel bolts. Anything specific you want to know?
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Re: 1988 Alltrac - Fiona - 4th gen 3sgte enroute

Postby 82te72 » Tue Mar 10, 2015 4:42 am

got it. well good to know how simple it is.
mine came with a knocked gen 2 so i have the bolts already.

Im just looking for an engine now.

thank you.
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Re: 1988 Alltrac - Fiona - 4th gen 3sgte enroute

Postby 88st165 » Mon Mar 16, 2015 2:03 am

Thank you for posting all the great info about the 4th gen swap. Looking forward to the updates. 8)
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Re: 1988 Alltrac - Fiona - 4th gen 3sgte enroute

Postby 760gt4 » Sat Apr 11, 2015 1:40 pm

UtahSleeper wrote:Well, small update.

-I have sent off the my harness to have it modified to work in the st165.
-The stock flywheel bolts are too small for the motor(the threaded portion). Need to see what is needed here. Flywheel seems to line up properly.

So did you use your 1st gen flywheel with gen2 bolts? I'm in the process of buying a clutch and flywheel kit but I'm not sure if all flywheels are the same for every gen. Or if the transmission will be an issue since I'm gonna use an st205 gearbox.
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Re: 1988 Alltrac - Fiona - 4th gen 3sgte enroute

Postby UtahSleeper » Sat Apr 11, 2015 2:57 pm

760gt4 wrote:
UtahSleeper wrote:Well, small update.

-I have sent off the my harness to have it modified to work in the st165.
-The stock flywheel bolts are too small for the motor(the threaded portion). Need to see what is needed here. Flywheel seems to line up properly.

So did you use your 1st gen flywheel with gen2 bolts? I'm in the process of buying a clutch and flywheel kit but I'm not sure if all flywheels are the same for every gen. Or if the transmission will be an issue since I'm gonna use an st205 gearbox.



Well, not sure on transmission, but the flywheel is my 1st gen flywheel. I bought flywheel bolts for a 2nd gen mr2 motor. All lined up and went together fine. I used my 1st gen transmission for this swap.
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Re: 1988 Alltrac - Fiona - 4th gen 3sgte enroute

Postby 760gt4 » Sat Apr 11, 2015 4:32 pm

I see. Your stock trans is in good shape with no worn syncros? My 2nd gear is barely hanging in there, I have to shift at very low rpms, like under 3k.
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Re: 1988 Alltrac - Fiona - 4th gen 3sgte enroute

Postby UtahSleeper » Sun Apr 12, 2015 2:40 am

I assume it is lol. I was able to get into first and second gear a few times before the previous motor developed knock. Thats the big issue with buying someone's project, you never know what it will need till you get it running.
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Re: 1988 Alltrac - Fiona - 4th gen 3sgte enroute

Postby 760gt4 » Sun Apr 12, 2015 2:46 am

Yeah man, sucks to hear that. Have you been driving the car at all?
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Re: 1988 Alltrac - Fiona - 4th gen 3sgte enroute

Postby UtahSleeper » Sun Apr 12, 2015 4:48 am

Just a little bit around my neighborhood. No tags and not worth chancing it. After I got the motor put in the FP died, so that set me back. All seems well now, so time to start working out the kinks. Motor seems healthy and it pulls strong.
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Re: 1988 Alltrac - Fiona - 4th gen 3sgte enroute

Postby 760gt4 » Tue May 19, 2015 11:22 pm

Would you happen to have any up close pics showing the wiring harness connected around the starter area? I wanna make sure I didn't mix up any ground wires cuz I'm not getting any power to the dash.
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Re: 1988 Alltrac - Fiona - 4th gen 3sgte enroute

Postby UtahSleeper » Wed May 20, 2015 3:12 am

I will try and take a pic tonight or tomorrow.
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Re: 1988 Alltrac - Fiona - 4th gen 3sgte enroute

Postby 760gt4 » Wed May 20, 2015 3:31 am

Alright, thanks man.
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Re: 1988 Alltrac - Fiona - 4th gen 3sgte enroute

Postby UtahSleeper » Fri May 22, 2015 12:35 am

Not sure if these pics are useful, but here you go.
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And now for a small update. Currently in the process of cleaning up rust around the windshield. While doing this I am also painting some interior pieces black and going to replace the headlines with a grey material. Here are some boring pics.

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Hoping to have thing buttoned up in the next couple weeks............hoping.
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