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Re: 1988 Alltrac - Fiona v2

Postby UtahSleeper » Mon May 14, 2012 12:17 am

Small update.

Have most hoses connected and some parts cleaned up. Also removed the lower cross member to gain access to the TVIS, grounds and such.

What needs to be done before trying to start:
Finish vacuum hoses
Finish connecting grounds
Get/Install EGR block offs. Probably from KO unless I can find cheaper
Install intercooler
Install radiator (need to decide if I want to use the stock fan, or get a slim)
Get a small battery
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Re: 1988 Alltrac - Fiona v2

Postby UtahSleeper » Mon May 28, 2012 2:06 am

So, just had a decent set back in my eye's. Was reassembling fiona and got underneath the car to hook up the final plugs and vacuum lines when I noticed something. The PO had did such a half ass job putting the intake back on that half of the intake gasket was fucking hanging out!! So now to try and fix this I will have to remove just about everything I have reassembled! Total buzz kill. I thought I was a week away from trying to start her and now I have to strip it all back down just to address that crap.

So, now this has me wondering if I should say f*** it, remove the center feed intake manifold and install my side feed GE. If I do that the car will take longer to get back on the road since I will need to get a FMIC and pipping. What would you guys suggest? Fix or do the upgrade?

Also, can you remove the north/south crossmember with no ill effects coming from the motor just resting on the east/west mounts?

Thanks.
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Re: 1988 Alltrac - Fiona v2

Postby 801Alltrac » Mon May 28, 2012 3:34 am

i would do the FMIC, its a sign lol
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Re: 1988 Alltrac - Fiona v2

Postby Dracov » Mon May 28, 2012 4:59 am

Yeah, since the gasket is screwed just put your side-feed on there now. No harm in doing the job once, rather than having to do it again later just for that upgrade.

Oh and I've had the engine just sitting on the east/west mounts before. It's fine, doesn't hurt anything and lets you tilt the engine back and forth if needed
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Re: 1988 Alltrac - Fiona v2

Postby Arky » Tue May 29, 2012 2:51 am

Hi, on page two, pics 10 & 15 are of the "inter-cooler computer", NOT a crossover. The plastic cover/box gets very brittle as it sit under the dash. Just thought I should put it out there, looking forward to the rest of your build. :D
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Re: 1988 Alltrac - Fiona v2

Postby UtahSleeper » Tue May 29, 2012 2:18 pm

Thanks. I noticed a little more of what it was when I was removing shit on a jy celica and it had the same boards, just properly mounted lol.
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Re: 1988 Alltrac - Fiona v2

Postby UtahSleeper » Tue May 29, 2012 2:20 pm

Dracov wrote:Oh and I've had the engine just sitting on the east/west mounts before. It's fine, doesn't hurt anything and lets you tilt the engine back and forth if needed


Thanks for that input. That will make alot of shit easier lol.
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Re: 1988 Alltrac - Fiona v2

Postby Redrkt01 » Thu Jul 12, 2012 12:05 am

Eventually, the E/W mount will fail. I would get it supported by at least three mounts as soon as you can.
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Re: 1988 Alltrac - Fiona v2

Postby UtahSleeper » Thu Jul 12, 2012 2:53 am

I will be putting my north south mounts back on shorty. I want to try and find a better east west mounts, but dont really want to buy new ones. Is there a softer material to fill mounts with that can add strength but not make the body rattle?
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Re: 1988 Alltrac - Fiona v2

Postby 3sgtealltrac » Thu Jul 12, 2012 3:51 am

im glad youve dedicated youselve to this i wish i had the funds to keep it. definately need to see it running when its all done. ya the last owner tore that wiring up :( and the mechanic he had didnt do a very good job. i had to buy new head bolts for it 2 were broken and 1 was stripped where youd put the socket or whatever.
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Re: 1988 Alltrac - Fiona v2

Postby 3sgtealltrac » Thu Jul 12, 2012 5:10 pm

oh and the turbo is an ebay turbo thought id throw it in to try to sell it better. never been bolted on anything (so i was told). everything aftermarket or missing was the previous owner to me. i replaced the head gasket and thats the only thing i did. all those bolts were already missing. im glad to see it gettin work.
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Re: 1988 Alltrac - Fiona v2

Postby UtahSleeper » Thu Jul 12, 2012 5:21 pm

Kind of figured iit was an ebay special lol. I wont use it on the trac, but with the life of my corolla engine being limited, I think that would be the best testing place for it before I build a new motor.
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Re: 1988 Alltrac - Fiona v2

Postby amby » Thu Jul 12, 2012 7:28 pm

Nice worke so far. Keep it upp!
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Re: 1988 Alltrac - Fiona v2

Postby UtahSleeper » Sun Jul 15, 2012 5:43 am

Well, another small set back. The damn alum radiator has a nice hole in it. May try and JB weld it or something.......
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Re: 1988 Alltrac - Fiona v2

Postby ZeroDrift » Fri Jul 20, 2012 12:10 pm

UtahSleeper wrote:Well, another small set back. The damn alum radiator has a nice hole in it. May try and JB weld it or something.......


Welding would be the best bet, but you could possibly use a tin brazing technique. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RRWmpSE-hXk
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