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700AWHP or Bust

Postby BADNEWS » Sun Feb 10, 2013 5:53 pm

I just did one quick photo of my rotating assembly with all the coatings. Did this photo is a couple minutes. Assembly of the motor is going to start soon.

Swain Tech did the coatings.
Pistons= Thermal Gold Coat on top and Low Friction on skirts
Rods=Oil Shed
Crank=Oil Shed
Bearings=Low Friction


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Here is the Head Assembly with the Coatings:
Combustion Chamber=Thermal
Exhaust Port=Thermal
Valves=Thermal
Valve Stems=Low Friction

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And the 5S Block with POR-15 block coating in black:

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Re: 700AWHP or Bust

Postby 801Alltrac » Sun Feb 10, 2013 6:05 pm

so fresh and so clean what turbo you using? :shrug:
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Re: 700AWHP or Bust

Postby BADNEWS » Sun Feb 10, 2013 6:13 pm

Suppose I should put a mod list with it.

MODS

Engine:
5S stroker (2.2 Liter) CP pistons (9.7:1 compression), Cunningham rods, 5S crank
98+ 5S block Half Filled
Swain Tech Coated Piston, Rods, Crank, Bearings, Combustion Chamber, and Exhaust Ports
ARP main studs
ARP L19 head studs
Hux Racing head stud step washers
ATS 5S .051 Headgasket
shimmed ATS oil pump +4.25mm
ported head (made so exhaust ports flow 20% more than intake ports)
GSC bronze valve guides
GSC Beehive valve springs
GSC Beehive titanium retainers
SuperTech 1mm oversized valves (Inconel on exhaust side)
Shimless conversion
HKS 272 10.4mm cams (IN/EX)
HKS cam gears
HKS timing belt
Unorthodox underdrive crank pulley
Fensport overdrive power steering pulley
Fensport Std size Alt pulley
O2 Induction custom intake manifold
Phenolic spacer
Wilson 80mm Throttle Body
Moroso Oil Pan
Custom Crank Scraper
Electromoitve TEC3
Talor Plug Wires to work with TEC3 coils
Speed Source solid engine mounts
Speed Source SS clutch line
Speed Source shifter bushings
Speed Source Crossmember Bushings
Custom Exhaust 3.5 inch w/ Apex-i Titanium N1 Muffler
Golpher 40mm Aluminum Radiator

Drivetrain:
Clutch Masters FX725 twin disk clutch
ACPT carbon 1 piece driveshaft
Toyota transmission with (93+ MR2 1st, 2nd gear, and shafts) (ST185 3rd-5th) and (ST205/93+ MR2 synchros)
Frana Billet Shift Forks
Hux Racing Scatter Shield
Mario's Center Viscous Coupling upgrade set to 300 ft/lbs
Mario's Rear Diff Mount
Cusco Rear LSD
Custom Solid Aluminum Rear Sub-Frame Mounts

Fuel:
Two Hux Racing fuel rails
Precision 95 Lbs/hr injectors (Primary)
Precision 165 Lbs/hr injectors (Secondary)
Aeromotive A100 fuel pressure regulator
Aeromotive Fuel Filters
Aeromotive Eliminator fuel pump
Aeromotive Fuel Pump Controller
JAZ 12 gallon fuel cell

Turbo:
Full Race twin scroll T4 exhaust manifold
Forced Performance HTZ4094R w/ 1.19 A/R Turbine Housing (In Precision terms it's a 6868 turbo)
2 Tial 44mm wastegates
Turbo Smart E-Boost 2 controller
Presicion 24 X 12 x 4 intercooler
HKS SS BOV
All wiggins clamps on the IC piping

Suspension and Brakes:
Tein SS coilovers
Whiteline 20mm rear adjustable swaybar
93 27mm front Toyota sway bar
93 rear control arms
Superflex full bushing Kit
Rocketeer Front and Rear brake kits
SSR Competition 17 X 8 wheels w 245/40 17 tires

Interior:
Momo competition steering wheel
TWM short throw shifter
TRD shift knob
Custom Autometer gauge cluster
Autometer 3 3/8 Speedo (0-160mph)
Autometer 3 3/8 tach
Autometer 2 1/16 fuel level
Autometer 2 1/16 water temp
Autometer 2 5/8 fuel pressure
Autometer 2 5/8 oil pressure
Holley A/F 2 1/16 gauge with FJO wideband
Sparco Figther race seats
Sparco competition 5 point 3" Harness
Custom 12 point cage

Exterior:
Lexus IS 300 Graphite Gray Pearl paint
Shaved fuel door, rear wiper, and rear washer nozzle
VIS RC hood
RC front bumber
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Re: 700AWHP or Bust

Postby BADNEWS » Sun Feb 10, 2013 6:20 pm

This is how I am shimming my pump. You just need a 3/8 npt tap, a 3/8 npt allen plug, and drill bit for the plug (but the hole in your pump is the correct size for the tap already).

Drilled the plug so the valve doesn't hydro-lock. I did this back in 2003 without drilling it and I blew out my oil filter gasket from it hydro-locking and going over 100psi on a cold start.
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My plug is about 10.8mm thick.
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Factory C-clip installed and plug threaded up to C-clip. Plug is protruding out 4.75mm. C-clip is 1mm thick, so for stock oil pressure setting the plug must be installed to 5.75mm deep.
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Plug installed so that it is almost flush. Sticking out about 1mm-.5mm. We can just call it .8mm so that makes my plug installed 10mm total to make it easy. That means I have shimmed my relief valve 4.25mm like this.
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1.5mm washer I can use as a shim for more oil pressure.
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Re: 700AWHP or Bust

Postby l0ch0w » Sun Feb 10, 2013 8:06 pm

6466 would be nice, but have you considered the Billet 6766 ball-bearing? I have ridden in an MR2 with gen 3 swap and one of those... it spooled faster than you could imagine... at only 24 psi it was pushing 675 to the wheels... Would have gone over 900 had he decided to actually turn the boost beyond 35-40ish

Also, what you doing for ignition system?
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Re: 700AWHP or Bust

Postby BADNEWS » Sun Feb 10, 2013 8:20 pm

l0ch0w wrote:6466 would be nice, but have you considered the Billet 6766 ball-bearing? I have ridden in an MR2 with gen 3 swap and one of those... it spooled faster than you could imagine... at only 24 psi it was pushing 675 to the wheels... Would have gone over 900 had he decided to actually turn the boost beyond 35-40ish

Also, what you doing for ignition system?


The 6766 is not worth it IMHO. I'll either take the same spool and more power with a 6466 or same power and faster spool with a 6266 than my current turbo. I don't want anymore lag.

My ignition is all done with the TEC3. It's all apart of their EMS setup. All I did was get custom Nology plug wires with some NGK bkr8eix plugs
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Re: 700AWHP or Bust

Postby l0ch0w » Sun Feb 10, 2013 8:26 pm

Not to be the bringer of bad news, but Nology wires are pretty well known to be snake oil. Go with Magnecor.

The ball bearing CEA billet 6766 spooled faster and hit harder than the original non billet bb 6266 that I rode in... Just sayin...

Ill find the dyno charts around here somewhere...
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Re: 700AWHP or Bust

Postby BADNEWS » Sun Feb 10, 2013 8:35 pm

http://forums.evolutionm.net/evo-engine-turbo-drivetrain/605026-new-cea-precision-6466-dyno-graphs-vs-6266-6766-inside.html

Here is the 6266 vs 6466 vs 6766

I used to have Magnecor but I didn't want red. Looked bad in the engine bay. I wanted black so Nology was the only company. So far no problems. Had my car up to 30psi on previous motor and runs strong. Here is a video of me racing my buddies bike before my 3S block cracked. The cracked block is the reason I am redoing my motor:

http://youtu.be/wTM-0HNDVr4
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Re: 700AWHP or Bust

Postby l0ch0w » Sun Feb 10, 2013 8:44 pm

The biggest drawback from Nology's is that they dont do much for EMI reduction. Any sort of Analog input can be affected by this... They have also been known to kill coils by over-drawing them.

If you dont want red in the engine, just make some of your own using some MSD 8.5mm Super Conductor wire, its pretty comparable to Magnecor except theres a little extra work involved crimping your own...
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Re: 700AWHP or Bust

Postby klue » Mon Feb 11, 2013 12:05 am

Looks great Best of luck
I would advise to get a drag rated oil pan. On high output 4wd the acceleration G force can push the oil right to the back of the motor and starve the pick up. The engine will work fine on the dyno but likely not last once you get some grippy tires
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Re: 700AWHP or Bust

Postby l0ch0w » Mon Feb 11, 2013 2:43 am



Those were on a supra... either way, you are right, that is a very impressive turbo.
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Re: 700AWHP or Bust

Postby aus jd 2703 » Mon Feb 11, 2013 4:10 am

i loved your first incarnation and now i love this even more!
alot of people have questioned your choices and sure we would all do things slightly differently, but you cannot argue with your previous results and cannot wait for results of this engine.
i am curious about your sump and pick up system, what did you go with?
also are the rods and pistons custom? also is it a true 2.2L or is it 2.15L?
love the wiggins clamps! and surely this engine is capable of more than 700AWHP? your mods list looks as good not if better than trevor's and pat's?
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Re: 700AWHP or Bust

Postby ZeroDrift » Mon Feb 11, 2013 4:39 am

Progress looks great! Got a question for you regarding the coating on the head. Won't part of the combustion chamber coating be milled away when you have the head decked?
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Re: 700AWHP or Bust

Postby BADNEWS » Mon Feb 11, 2013 7:20 am

aus jd 2703 wrote:i loved your first incarnation and now i love this even more!
alot of people have questioned your choices and sure we would all do things slightly differently, but you cannot argue with your previous results and cannot wait for results of this engine.
i am curious about your sump and pick up system, what did you go with?
also are the rods and pistons custom? also is it a true 2.2L or is it 2.15L?
love the wiggins clamps! and surely this engine is capable of more than 700AWHP? your mods list looks as good not if better than trevor's and pat's?


Before I ran the stock 3S oil pump with that allen plug shimmed to about 3mm. With 10W-30 oil when the engine was warmed up, I would get a peak oil pressure of about 67psi. This time I did a little more to try and hit 70psi.

Yes the rods and pistons are custom. My rods are 4mm longer than stock and the wrist pin is moved up into the oil ring area. I have to run oil support rail rings. If you look closely at the pic I have an extra set of rings there compared to normal. That is why. I did this to get a better rod ratio, and have more dwell time at TDC for better high RPM's.

ZeroDrift wrote:Progress looks great! Got a question for you regarding the coating on the head. Won't part of the combustion chamber coating be milled away when you have the head decked?


Yes it will come off when the head is decked. But I'm not building this motor with the thought of redoing it anytime soon. I hope that is how it goes.
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Re: 700AWHP or Bust

Postby aus jd 2703 » Mon Feb 11, 2013 9:11 pm

rm2932 wrote:Before I ran the stock 3S oil pump with that allen plug shimmed to about 3mm. With 10W-30 oil when the engine was warmed up, I would get a peak oil pressure of about 67psi. This time I did a little more to try and hit 70psi.

Yes the rods and pistons are custom. My rods are 4mm longer than stock and the wrist pin is moved up into the oil ring area. I have to run oil support rail rings. If you look closely at the pic I have an extra set of rings there compared to normal. That is why. I did this to get a better rod ratio, and have more dwell time at TDC for better high RPM's.


wow just wow, you have truly developed your package, something very few people do now-days (myself included). you have been through trial and error and developed parts instead of buying and assembly. keep it up :notworthy: :notworthy:
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