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Re: Dred's Rahtid 165

Postby CMS-GT4 » Sun Sep 29, 2013 12:43 am

Such a nice example of a 165.
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Re: Dred's Rahtid 165

Postby CSAlltrac » Sun Sep 29, 2013 12:45 am

Car looks awesome. I hope you don't trailer often with the car loaded backwards. It puts all the weight where you don't want it and makes traveling very dangerous when loaded that way.
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Re: Dred's Rahtid 165

Postby ChrisD » Mon Sep 30, 2013 3:27 am

Wow, this was always one of my favourite 165's. You are doing really good work with it. Glad to see it is really being cared for. :)
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Re: Dred's Rahtid 165

Postby GT4times2 » Mon Sep 30, 2013 12:50 pm

Agreed! You're taking this car to a different level. I'm sure the PO is happy to see it in the right hands. Keep up the great work! Don't forget we have a few more 165s to complete. :P Lol!
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Re: Dred's Rahtid 165

Postby phattyduck » Tue Oct 01, 2013 11:34 pm

GT4_DRED wrote:Went from 215/35/18 on all four corners to 225/40/18 rears and 215/40/18 fronts. I'm sure I can fit 235s out back with the spring perch trimmed down, the Ground Control setup, and no spacers (currently running 20mm); the 225s will fit the front easy.
Ummmm.... wait, you put on mis-matched F/R tires? They don't even have the same rolling diameter. Bad idea...

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Re: Dred's Rahtid 165

Postby 1337computing » Tue Oct 01, 2013 11:57 pm

phattyduck wrote:
GT4_DRED wrote:Went from 215/35/18 on all four corners to 225/40/18 rears and 215/40/18 fronts. I'm sure I can fit 235s out back with the spring perch trimmed down, the Ground Control setup, and no spacers (currently running 20mm); the 225s will fit the front easy.
Ummmm.... wait, you put on mis-matched F/R tires? They don't even have the same rolling diameter. Bad idea...

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Awesome thread but totally agree with phattyduck. AWD man can't mismatch tire sizes, width yes, size no. Very bad for your drive line.
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Re: Dred's Rahtid 165

Postby GT4_DRED » Wed Oct 02, 2013 12:25 am

1337computing wrote:
phattyduck wrote:
GT4_DRED wrote:Went from 215/35/18 on all four corners to 225/40/18 rears and 215/40/18 fronts. I'm sure I can fit 235s out back with the spring perch trimmed down, the Ground Control setup, and no spacers (currently running 20mm); the 225s will fit the front easy.
Ummmm.... wait, you put on mis-matched F/R tires? They don't even have the same rolling diameter. Bad idea...-Charlie


Awesome thread but totally agree with phattyduck. AWD man can't mismatch tire sizes, width yes, size no. Very bad for your drive line.

Tires are still the same diameter; just different widths from front to rear. As posted above, they are 225/40/18 rears and 215/40/18 fronts..
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Re: Dred's Rahtid 165

Postby phattyduck » Thu Oct 03, 2013 3:53 pm

GT4_DRED wrote:Tires are still the same diameter; just different widths from front to rear. As posted above, they are 225/40/18 rears and 215/40/18 fronts..
NO.

225/40/18 and 215/40/18 have about 0.3" difference in rolling diameter. You need to stay within 1/16" (0.0625") and it is better to try to stay within 1/32" wear with regular tire rotations (which you can't do with mismatched tires).

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http://www.tacomaworld.com/forum/tireca ... -225-40r18

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Re: Dred's Rahtid 165

Postby 1337computing » Thu Oct 03, 2013 5:10 pm

phattyduck wrote:
GT4_DRED wrote:Tires are still the same diameter; just different widths from front to rear. As posted above, they are 225/40/18 rears and 215/40/18 fronts..
NO.

225/40/18 and 215/40/18 have about 0.3" difference in rolling diameter. You need to stay within 1/16" (0.0625") and it is better to try to stay within 1/32" wear with regular tire rotations (which you can't do with mismatched tires).

See link:
http://www.tacomaworld.com/forum/tireca ... -225-40r18

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Re: Dred's Rahtid 165

Postby GT4_DRED » Thu Oct 03, 2013 5:59 pm

1337computing wrote:
phattyduck wrote:
GT4_DRED wrote:Tires are still the same diameter; just different widths from front to rear. As posted above, they are 225/40/18 rears and 215/40/18 fronts..
NO.

225/40/18 and 215/40/18 have about 0.3" difference in rolling diameter. You need to stay within 1/16" (0.0625") and it is better to try to stay within 1/32" wear with regular tire rotations (which you can't do with mismatched tires).

See link:
http://www.tacomaworld.com/forum/tireca ... -225-40r18

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Phattyducks right man.

It actually measured out to be a 2mm-3mm difference front to rear, which I'm not worried about. I totally get your point, but the same difference can be had with tire wear, different brands of tires (same size) front to rear, or even the same set/size that grows differently at speed. I've seen guys use tires of the same size stretched across staggered 17x8/17x9, with the same or slightly greater variance and no ill effects. My experience is that there is some wiggle room around the numbers. You guys will be the first to know if there is catastrophic failure :)
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Re: Dred's Rahtid 165

Postby MWP » Sat Oct 05, 2013 1:45 pm

GT4_DRED wrote:You guys will be the first to know if there is catastrophic failure :)


There probably wont be.
Just give it a couple of years and your AllTrac will only be FWD because the viscous center is worn out.
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Re: Dred's Rahtid 165

Postby alltrac101 » Sat Oct 05, 2013 2:02 pm

MWP wrote:
GT4_DRED wrote:You guys will be the first to know if there is catastrophic failure :)


There probably wont be.
Just give it a couple of years and your AllTrac will only be FWD because the viscous center is worn out.

I wouldn't worry about it, i ran different size tires with the gram lights for years with a difference in diameter as much as 1/4", dyno, 1/4" mile, I went back & forth between the odd sized 18's & even sized 17's. I just changed it to mario's up-rated unit recently.
Most of these guys with multiple alltracs have spare tranny/transfer cases available to them anyway & are capable of doing the switch themselves.
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Re: Dred's Rahtid 165

Postby GT4times2 » Sat Oct 05, 2013 6:06 pm

alltrac101 wrote:
MWP wrote:
GT4_DRED wrote:You guys will be the first to know if there is catastrophic failure :)


There probably wont be.
Just give it a couple of years and your AllTrac will only be FWD because the viscous center is worn out.

I wouldn't worry about it, i ran different size tires with the gram lights for years with a difference in diameter as much as 1/4", dyno, 1/4" mile, I went back & forth between the odd sized 18's & even sized 17's. I just changed it to mario's up-rated unit recently.
Most of these guys with multiple alltracs have spare tranny/transfer cases available to them anyway & are capable of doing the switch themselves.



You know it! With these cars we need spares for everything. :P I wouldn't worry about it either.
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Re: Dred's Rahtid 165

Postby alltrac101 » Sat Oct 05, 2013 7:06 pm

What are you doing typing....shouldn't you be looking for some ting
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Re: Dred's Rahtid 165

Postby GT4times2 » Sat Oct 05, 2013 7:15 pm

alltrac101 wrote:What are you doing typing....shouldn't you be looking for some ting


Ting call Mul-Ti-Tas-King!! :P
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