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Re: The White '88 Alltrac Camry 3S-GE BEAMS swap

PostPosted: Sat Jun 08, 2013 12:31 am
by CSAlltrac
What company was the motor from? I just found mine on eBay as well. Went with jdmracingmotors, they were great and the motor was super clean.

Re: The White '88 Alltrac Camry 3S-GE BEAMS swap

PostPosted: Mon Jun 10, 2013 3:57 pm
by phattyduck
I bought from "japandirectjapanese" on eBay - They have another similar one up now but it is not as clean and much more expensive. You just have to just go for the best, not the cheapest. The hardest part (to a person who hasn't done it before, at least) is figuring out what parts are necessary and what parts aren't.

If I was doing an ST205 swap again, I would only get a clip. There are just to many things not directly attached to the motor that are necessary (and essentially always missing when you get a motor set). With the Beams, there are a lot fewer parts not directly attached to the motor (no igniter, no intercooler parts, etc. to worry about).

-Charlie

Re: The White '88 Alltrac Camry 3S-GE BEAMS swap

PostPosted: Mon Jul 15, 2013 8:20 pm
by phattyduck
The White Alltrac packed up and on its way to the new house... (and yes, the bikes on the roof are each worth a multiple of the car... :twisted: )

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Sadly, it'll be a while 'til I get back to it. :( The house will be taking priority for a bit.

-Charlie

Re: The White '88 Alltrac Camry 3S-GE BEAMS swap

PostPosted: Mon Jul 15, 2013 9:32 pm
by Toxygene
Subscribed!!! And if you ever want to start doing this for a side business where you buy Camry Alltracs and swap these in... let me know! LOL :wink:

Re: The White '88 Alltrac Camry 3S-GE BEAMS swap

PostPosted: Mon Jul 15, 2013 10:28 pm
by phattyduck
The challenge is finding a good Camry Alltrac! :D

-Charlie

Re: The White '88 Alltrac Camry 3S-GE BEAMS swap

PostPosted: Fri Feb 27, 2015 5:22 am
by phattyduck
Just realized I haven't been updating this thread... I took a while off the project, but I'm back on it working at a reasonable pace:

Harnesses merged:
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Engine maintenance done. Timing belt, tensioner, idler/tensioner pulleys, water pump, valve cover gaskets, spark plugs, etc.:

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I'm now ready to pull the stock motor/trans and do the real mechanical work of the swap. I can finally see the light at the end of the tunnel!

-Charlie

Re: The White '88 Alltrac Camry 3S-GE BEAMS swap

PostPosted: Fri Feb 27, 2015 6:33 am
by FC Zach
Nice work man!

Re: The White '88 Alltrac Camry 3S-GE BEAMS swap

PostPosted: Mon Mar 02, 2015 4:01 am
by phattyduck
Made great progress today. Most of the accessories, etc. were already disconnected a long time ago (like, almost two years ago at my last house...). The power steering pump and exhaust was all that was left beside the mounting points.

So here it goes. Remove everything below the motor (lower suspension arms, swaybar, swaybar mounts, etc.), lift motor enough to get weight off the motor mounts, remove bolts, remove mounts, drop motor:

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Slide the assembly out from underneath the car:

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And EMPTY!

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Now we play a little game called, "Name that Engine"

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That's right folks, it already had a 5s block in it:

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The guy that I bought the car from was a Toyota guy, and had previously had at least one Celica Alltrac. I think he also serviced it at a Toyota performance shop. Looks like he was after a bit more power in his ride... Oh, and the cat-back looks like it might already be a slight performance setup (though with small piping, it has a glass pack resonator instead of the main muffler and the rear muffler is aftermarket with a little turn-down instead of the stock setup).

And here we are at the end of the day, just as the rain started (I had to do the engine/trans separation outside for sufficient room):

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There is a fair amount of cleanup to do (typical distributor leak and power steering leak on to the trans), but overall it should be pretty straightforward from here on out. Of course, there is the huge pain of getting the trans back on the motor...

'Til next time...

-Charlie

Re: The White '88 Alltrac Camry 3S-GE BEAMS swap

PostPosted: Mon Mar 23, 2015 9:46 pm
by phattyduck
Lots of progress over the last few weeks.

Engine ready for flywheell/clutch:

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Clutch installed, ready for mating with the trans:
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It all fits!
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Leaking power steering feed/return lines to be cleaned and replaced:
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Rusty battery tray to be repaired:
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So, I have to do the battery tray rust repair, replace some power steering lines before installing the motor. Then I'll finish up the oil filter relocation, welding the water temp switch bung to the BEAMS neck, clearance the front swaybar mount and a few other things...

I got the new axles ready (gotta get the core charge back...):

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Started the process of replacing the leaking power steering hoses. Oddly, the pressure hose is still in great shape. The reservoir return and pump feed lines are leaking. The Toyota OEM feed line (only way to get it) arrives on Wednesday, the return line has been replaced with aftermarket:

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And, got started on the oil filter relocation. I think I figured out the best way to do it. The filter will be in the fender well, right next to the washer bottle. I'll modify the fender liner a bit for clearance. I should be able to keep the cruise control actuator in the stock location AND be able to do a tool-free oil change once I get a Fumoto oil drain valve. I'm using -10AN lines this time (the 3s-gte Alltrac is using -12AN lines - I might even swap over to this style if things work out well on this one).

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Rust converter on the battery tray:

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Primed/Painted (still probably going to put a bit of undercoating as the battery tray surface):

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I replaced the axle seal and the shifter boot on the transmission, then got to installing the engine. Lifting the engine in:

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In place!

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ECU mounted and plugged in:

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There are lots of little things to do at this point. Every part has a bit of 'custom' work to do to get it to line up, etc. A good milestone has been reached though!

-Charlie

Re: The White '88 Alltrac Camry 3S-GE BEAMS swap

PostPosted: Fri Mar 27, 2015 8:37 pm
by Awesome-Trac
DAMN LOVE YOUR BUILD!!!

Re: The White '88 Alltrac Camry 3S-GE BEAMS swap

PostPosted: Tue Mar 31, 2015 1:56 pm
by CSAlltrac
Awesome progress buddy. Keep it going.

Re: The White '88 Alltrac Camry 3S-GE BEAMS swap

PostPosted: Fri Jul 03, 2015 4:44 pm
by phattyduck
Had an extra day off of work yesterday... used it on the car:

First, wired up the extra starter relay:
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Got the battery tie-down finished and the vacuum hose routing done, dropped the car on the ground, added fluids:
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Found a minor leak on the fan temp switch... tightened it up just a bit. Hopefully it holds...

And then, turned the key:
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Woo hoo! Ok, that was after a fair amount of cranking to get oil pressure up (EFI fuse removed), then cranking to get fuel to the engine (EFI fuse in place), then a really quick start to verify no major oil leaks, etc. THEN the video. Yeah, I always video the *second* starting. :)

Gotta modify the tach so it will work (oddly, it works when the transmission is in reverse...), get the exhaust hooked up to the headers, clean the car out and wash it... its pretty much ready to drive!

-Charlie

Re: The White '88 Alltrac Camry 3S-GE BEAMS swap

PostPosted: Fri Jul 03, 2015 4:58 pm
by msanders2
I would never do this much work to a Camry, but this is soooo dang awesome. Great work man!

Re: The White '88 Alltrac Camry 3S-GE BEAMS swap

PostPosted: Fri Jul 03, 2015 9:06 pm
by CTechBlueDragon
Yeah!! Awesome first start is the best feeling!
Can you explain why the relay? I am having trouble getting my starter wiring figured out myself. It clicked a couple times then now it wont do jack, not sure if I got everything wired right inside the cabin. I need help! lol
Way to go, every little annoying adjustment and grind down and tweak will all be worth it when your rolling!

Re: The White '88 Alltrac Camry 3S-GE BEAMS swap

PostPosted: Sat Jul 04, 2015 10:52 am
by sMARTINside
Nice, I love it!