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Re: Rallysport ST165 Build

Postby UtahSleeper » Fri Jan 24, 2014 10:05 pm

rallygarage wrote:Best of luck and beware that other then suspension, rear diff and engine computer there is virtually no Celica specific rally parts available for this car. You will be fabricating everything yourself if you want it right. Some items are cost prohibitive. It looks like you are serious. You will be better off with Subi or Mitsu.


I think this is probably just fine since they are going to learn and go into a very lax group. This car will be a great learner as to the cost aspect and learning.

Great work so far and keep it up. Don't let the beast discourage you. Make her your bitch lol.

Figure out your EMS of choice yet?
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Re: Rallysport ST165 Build

Postby texturboII » Mon Jan 27, 2014 1:03 pm

That's funny, because that's a mantra of my partner in this when he's working on her and comes across a stubborn... whatever. "The car is your bitch."

Thanks for the support, we've got a rebuild kit for the bottom end on the way and a local guy who's going to rebuild the transmission for a pretty good deal.
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Re: Rallysport ST165 Build

Postby texturboII » Thu Feb 13, 2014 3:28 pm

Well after sending the block to get cleaned and inspected, along with the crankshaft it looks like the motor was definitely overheated. The crankshaft needs to be repaired and the block may be cracked. If it overheated that badly, I think it's safe to assume that the head is warped as well.

SO, it looks like we are looking into engine swaps. I imagine finding a 1988 3S-GTE isn't going to be terribly easy. I'm not sure what variations may have happened over the years, so we're thinking of swapping in a motor from an ST185 or ST205, depending on how difficult it may be. The research begins!
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Re: Rallysport ST165 Build

Postby UtahSleeper » Thu Feb 13, 2014 4:47 pm

From what I recall, the 185 swap is pretty straight forward. The 205 has some wiring to concern yourself with, but bolts up, if I recall correctly.

Also, 165 engines are seen on eBay, just don't know on quality.

If you could find a 3sgte from a MR2 that needs a rebuild, that could be a cheap option.
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Re: Rallysport ST165 Build

Postby texturboII » Thu Feb 13, 2014 7:42 pm

I think we're leaning towards the ST205. We are definitely going to with a stand-alone EMS, so that should mitigate adaption issues electrically.
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