Operation: DARKSPYRO ST204->AWD

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Re: Operation: DARKSPYRO ST204->AWD

Postby New Guy » Wed Oct 02, 2013 3:01 am

Well, the 6GC was about the era where Toyota got clever with cross-compatibility...
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Re: Operation: DARKSPYRO ST204->AWD

Postby GT4times2 » Wed Oct 02, 2013 2:52 pm

CSAlltrac wrote:This is an awesome build. The work looks very solid and well planned out. I've only seen one other conversion in person and their method was to take a rear body pan from an actual AWD car and fit it to a front drive chassis. It was very sketchy. Your method is by far the better choice, solid materials to the existing solid mounting points. I look forward to your future posts, keep it up.


I don't think it's bad to do the floor pan from the Awd set up to the FWD. I'd trust a chassis shop to do and strengthen it with a roll bar/cage. It has to be done right. I wouldn't attempt it on my own. However Malek is also doing it right. I applaud him for his work. I want to be able to use the OEM fuel tank on my set up.
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Re: Operation: DARKSPYRO ST204->AWD

Postby CMS-GT4 » Wed Oct 02, 2013 3:30 pm

Nice to see this done right. It may have discouraged me from ever attempting it as many made it look as if it was a much simpler task to perform.
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Re: Operation: DARKSPYRO ST204->AWD

Postby Malek » Thu Oct 03, 2013 2:14 pm

Thanks all! It has definitely tried my patience. It's usually the dumb little things that get in the way of progress haha

As far as cross compatibility, the only difference between a GT and a GT4 (body wise) is the rear 3rd of the car. On the GT, the exhaust runs right where the driveshaft would go but it also has the tunnel next to it as if it were a GT4. Makes the swap a little easier since I didn't have to worry about pounding out the tunnel or anything.

Updates!
-I swapped the rear GT4 brakes to GT so I could run my stockers with winter wheels (Not cross compatible, had to switch them back)
-Bled the brakes
-Installed the B-Pipe (holy pain that was :bangshead: )

And drove it around! Everything sounded alright, no crazy chirping or dragging. I do think I bent the cover that goes around the rear output shaft though since it faintly scrapes the drive shaft. Ah well..that's an easy fix haha

Just gotta tidy up the tank and build a cover, clean up and reinstall all the interior and we should be good to go!
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Re: Operation: DARKSPYRO ST204->AWD

Postby phattyduck » Thu Oct 03, 2013 4:04 pm

Malek wrote:Thanks all! It has definitely tried my patience. It's usually the dumb little things that get in the way of progress haha

-Installed the B-Pipe (holy pain that was :bangshead: )
LOL... like the sway bar too, eh? I understand why they went to the large front subframe (manufacturing), but it is hell when you try to change things later...

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Re: Operation: DARKSPYRO ST204->AWD

Postby Landon » Thu Jan 16, 2014 3:06 am

Any update on this?
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Re: Operation: DARKSPYRO ST204->AWD

Postby warracer » Thu Jan 16, 2014 4:22 am

yeah we need pictures and videos of this!! :D :notworthy:
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Re: Operation: DARKSPYRO ST204->AWD

Postby Droptop93 » Fri Jan 17, 2014 5:48 pm

Neat project keep it up
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Re: Operation: DARKSPYRO ST204->AWD

Postby Awesome-Trac » Sat Jan 18, 2014 7:11 am

I love how this 6gc turned out
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Re: Operation: DARKSPYRO ST204->AWD

Postby Malek » Sat Jan 18, 2014 5:40 pm

Hey ya'll!!

Sorry I haven't updated in a while. Holidays and travels add up fast. Anyways..

I swapped out my 17 gal rci aluminum tank for a 12 gal FuelSafe tank. The rci developed a wicked leak and figured I could sell the aluminum for more than the tank was worth so yep. I still haven't constructed a full cover yet. I am thinking of ways to use the factory fuel filler and creative ways to maximize trunk space.

I now have two Walbro pumps. intank and inline. I am preparing to add the swirl pot sometime soon.

Thoughts on driving a swapped AWD 6gc:
It's a damn blast! I remember how driving the fwd 3sgte setup felt and commonly I compare the two when driving. The fwd is obviously a lot lighter (I can feel the added weight). However, the hook up and go on the AWD is far beyond any fwd lsd I've driven. Through the twisties, the weight is a bummer but what weight it does carry makes up in the apex exit. Hammer down right after the apex, point, and shoot. It's a wonderful feeling. I was worried about not having a rear sway bar (another chassis issue to overcome) but I like the way it handles as is. The subframe mounts stiffened the rear end tremendously.

quirks:
-the inline pump is loud as fak. Didn't think it would be that loud.
-Haven't found any issues with the drivetrain yet. Tracks excellently and was able to get it aligned damn near perfect.

I'll be getting some pics and videos up when it's cleaned up. :smokes:
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Re: Operation: DARKSPYRO ST204->AWD

Postby GT4times2 » Sat Jan 18, 2014 10:33 pm

That's great news!! Big ups for getting it done, and in such short time. I might go your route (versus floorpan cut out for mounting subframe), although having the factory floor pan was the way I wanted it.

Keep up the good work. Let us know when you load up some videos. I'd love to see it action.
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Re: Operation: DARKSPYRO ST204->AWD

Postby New Guy » Sat Jan 18, 2014 10:59 pm

Any updates on a potential kit? It'd be cool as all get out to do this to my brother's '94 GT.
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Re: Operation: DARKSPYRO ST204->AWD

Postby SkagTits165 » Sun Jan 19, 2014 1:13 am

Id imagine that most front clips from an st205 have almost all pieces required, aside from the custom mounts that were fabricated.

I love this build/idea. Awesome job bud
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Re: Operation: DARKSPYRO ST204->AWD

Postby sMARTINside » Mon Jan 20, 2014 10:35 pm

Nice to read that you have fun with it! You should try a rear sway bar. From my experience, on the Celica 4WD, it really is day and night! :)
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Re: Operation: DARKSPYRO ST204->AWD

Postby SkagTits165 » Tue Mar 04, 2014 3:20 am

Updates please


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