88 Alltrac - Restore

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88 Alltrac - Restore

Postby zaluss » Sun Mar 02, 2014 6:57 pm

Its been awhile since I've played the Celica game but I'm back with a vengeance.

Here she is. She's not pretty but she came with a slew of parts and work already done to it.

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Mmm rusty wheel well. Thankfully after cleaning it up its just surface rust.

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The car came with a 2nd Gen 3SGTE with full ECU and harness. Came with a load of parts including piping, intercooler, etc. Downpipe is crushed from a front impact.

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Got the trans off and discovered a new pressure plate, clutch, and flywheel. Can't get the damn flywheel bolts off even with impacts. Going to use a little heat to melt the locktite here.

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Turbo isn't looking to hot.

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Transmission disconnected. I still have one transmission in the engine bay and another in the hatch :smile1:

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Here is the engine in the car. Turns over just fine but its been sitting for awhile. Freeze plug in the front of the block is gone, I bet water got inside and froze. After the swap this might be good for a rebuild along with the second head and block in the hatch.

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Seen better days.

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More parts. Turbo pieces, piping, headlights, body pieces, intercoolers, brackets, alternators, control arms, whole alltrac steering column with key, and more.

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Last closeup of the damaged timing cover.

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Plans are still in motion. Does Dr. Tweak still make that harness adapter? :amuse:
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Re: 88 Alltrac - Restore

Postby 88gt4DE » Mon Mar 03, 2014 10:31 pm

Holy wow .... man you got yer work cut out for ya there. Keep the pics coming and good luck. That's a total shame how that thing looks with all the parts in there like that. Good luck with the project man. :smokes:
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Re: 88 Alltrac - Restore

Postby sinerasis » Mon Mar 03, 2014 10:59 pm

Wow. I saw the ad for that car earlier... that's a lot of stuff. Remember to post updates! Hope you get her back on the road.
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Re: 88 Alltrac - Restore

Postby zaluss » Mon Mar 03, 2014 11:56 pm

sinerasis wrote:Wow. I saw the ad for that car earlier... that's a lot of stuff. Remember to post updates! Hope you get her back on the road.


I literally picked this up an hour after he posted and he even towed it to me :D

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Heatgun method works great so far. Pulled a few then my adapter broke and I called it a night.

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Lesson learned here. Cheap chrome adapters don't take impact well. I was just too lazy to reach for my impacts.

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Here is a nice closeup shot of the crushed downpipe for your viewing pleasure.
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Re: 88 Alltrac - Restore

Postby 88gt4DE » Wed Mar 05, 2014 10:07 pm

Yeah that downpipe is as good as trash ... man it looked to be in good shape too ...
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Re: 88 Alltrac - Restore

Postby zaluss » Sun Mar 09, 2014 1:59 am

88gt4DE wrote:Yeah that downpipe is as good as trash ... man it looked to be in good shape too ...


Sadly not anymore :(

Took a few hours today with a buddy to strip down the motor. Didn't get as far as I'd like but here are a few shots from today.

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Harness off. Prepping to mail to Dr. Tweak for rebuilding.

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Got this anchor off the car. Half the bolts were missing already.

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Intake manifold off.

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I didn't pay attention to this hard line and it snapped as the exhaust manifold was removed. No worries as this will be replaced with an AN braided line.

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Speaking of oil feed lines...

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Re: 88 Alltrac - Restore

Postby 88gt4DE » Sun Mar 09, 2014 3:57 pm

Shit ... you need an oil pan too and they are getting harder to find. 165 is discontinued OEM ... I just looked for one of those for my brother ...
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Re: 88 Alltrac - Restore

Postby zaluss » Sun Mar 09, 2014 4:33 pm

88gt4DE wrote:Shit ... you need an oil pan too and they are getting harder to find. 165 is discontinued OEM ... I just looked for one of those for my brother ...


Probably going to go with a Moroso oil pan. On the other hand, I have two other blocks with oil pans (spare 165 block came with the car as well as the one still in the car) that have considerably less dents than this one.
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Re: 88 Alltrac - Restore

Postby zaluss » Sun Mar 09, 2014 9:07 pm

Took a closer look at the transmission that came off the 2nd gen 3sgte. Appears to be a E153 w/ LSD but please correct me if I'm wrong. Useless to me so it goes on craigslist.

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Started to remove some more accessories like the power steering pump and now the upper belt cover.

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Not really sure what the PO did here but it felt apart as soon as I touched it. No matter, I need a celica timing belt cover regardless.

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I didn't notice this spacer setup on the intake manifold. I assume this is for the T-VIS system.

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The PO told me he put a new water pump and timing belt on. Pretty sure that SCREW is not OEM.

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And finally the crank bolt. 125psi on my 1/2" impact combined with heat and PB blaster....this thing would not budge. I guess I'll try again next weekend.

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Re: 88 Alltrac - Restore

Postby Tecker185 » Sun Mar 09, 2014 11:19 pm

Thts an s54 transmission found in 94-99 fwd Celica's. Non lsd unfortunately, that fillips head screw is oem. It has to be shallow like that or it would rub on the belt. Its a bitch to remove when the engine is in the car because it likes to strip.
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Re: 88 Alltrac - Restore

Postby 88gt4DE » Mon Mar 10, 2014 1:10 pm

Hmmm .. i didnt know that about the gen 2 motor with that phillips screw. That's different from the 165. Read up on deleting the TVIS system. You can see on my build what happened to me last year around this time AFTER my fresh rebuild ... And I didn't mess with those screws at all ...
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Re: 88 Alltrac - Restore

Postby zaluss » Mon Mar 10, 2014 1:31 pm

Tecker184 wrote:Thts an s54 transmission found in 94-99 fwd Celica's. Non lsd unfortunately, that fillips head screw is oem. It has to be shallow like that or it would rub on the belt. Its a bitch to remove when the engine is in the car because it likes to strip.


Thanks for the insight. Yes it does appear to be a S54 transmission non-lsd. The screw appears to be OEM after looking at a few guides.

88gt4DE wrote:Hmmm .. i didnt know that about the gen 2 motor with that phillips screw. That's different from the 165. Read up on deleting the TVIS system. You can see on my build what happened to me last year around this time AFTER my fresh rebuild ... And I didn't mess with those screws at all ...


Interesting. I'll explore removing the T-VIS system. I've read some reports of some bad stuff happening.

I need to replace the timing belt covers however I read somewhere that the MR2 and Celica lower belt covers were different but I wasn't sure if that was just for gen3 3sgte. Anyone have the answer to that?
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Re: 88 Alltrac - Restore

Postby zaluss » Sun Mar 16, 2014 8:46 pm

Finally pulled off all the accessories and the oil pan. Looks good so far, no pieces of metal anywhere. The dent in the oil pan thankfully didn't damage anything that I can tell however I don't have enough experience to really look at it by eye. Unfortunately I misplaced my socket to remove the head bolts so that'll have to wait until next weekend.

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Re: 88 Alltrac - Restore

Postby zaluss » Tue Mar 18, 2014 12:10 pm

Doh I forgot to set the engine to TDC before I removed the timing belt. Is it safe to the remove the head with the cams intact without damaging anything?
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Re: 88 Alltrac - Restore

Postby Tecker185 » Tue Mar 18, 2014 12:34 pm

The engine is non interference so you will not damage anything.
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