Toyota's famous cheater restrictor

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Toyota's famous cheater restrictor

Postby WideFNopen » Tue Jan 08, 2008 12:22 am

Just thought you guys might want a pic of the legendary cheater restrictor: It appears that the way it worked and the reason that they got away with it for so long is that the air intake clamp is what makes it functional. In other words it was all "legal" during inspection since the clamp is removed....genius at work.



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Postby Toxygene » Thu Jan 10, 2008 12:54 am

I don't understand how on the illegal side the air was supposed to pass through that lip before the funnel? In fact it almost looks like to me that the legal and illegal words should be flipped. I don't get it, could someone give some more explanation?

Sorry, I feel dumb but I'd still like to understand it. :shrug:
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Postby CMS-GT4 » Thu Jan 10, 2008 1:09 am

It looks like somehow extra air is sucked in the sides. I think we need to see it final form to understand the gap created.
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Postby turbo4wd » Thu Jan 10, 2008 4:52 am

http://homepage.virgin.net/shalco.com/tte_ban.htm

I remember seeing the way this flap operated... when it closed shut it looked like it didnt exist..
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Postby CMS-GT4 » Thu Jan 10, 2008 3:42 pm

After reading that articles, I really start to wonder if this act could have been part of the downfall of the gtfour. They drop out for a long time where people begin rooting for Suby and Mitsu. Perhaps that helps raise thir fandom and over all reducing sales of the gtfour.

Just a thought.
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Postby Letze » Thu Jan 10, 2008 4:47 pm

Yea such a shame... :(

Where can I get one of those turbos? :P
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Postby turbo4wd » Thu Jan 10, 2008 11:21 pm

CMS-GT4 wrote:After reading that articles, I really start to wonder if this act could have been part of the downfall of the gtfour. They drop out for a long time where people begin rooting for Suby and Mitsu. Perhaps that helps raise thir fandom and over all reducing sales of the gtfour.

Just a thought.


Well I imagine it couldn't have helped, and no doubt they decided that moving from the Celica name to the Corolla was a way for people to forget about the Celica GT4 and focus on the "new" Corolla WRC upon their return to the sport after being banned for a year.

But the reality of it is the GT4 died because of several factors:

- It was a small volume high priced car built to satisfy homologation rules during the time they chose to compete in the WRC.

- Once Toyota made the decision to have TTE leave WRC to concentrate on Le Mans, the only thing that could keep the GT4 alive would be sales, of which there were very little. The Le Mans effort was nothing more than a buildup to their F1 effort to which they are currently fully committed. And without another pseudo-factory group like TTE to run another WRC effort, chances are extremely slim we'll see another turbo4wd rally car from Toyota anytime soon.. (unless of course theres a Subieyota half-breed)

in terms of the US market itself:

- Toyota was gearing up for the launch of the MKIV Supra (which offered TT and more power than a 205 for roughly the same cost) for the same year the 205 wouldve been slated to come to the US.. Offering 2 cars in the same price range for the same market would've been counterproductive, and based on the fact Supra sales were strong its first year (for a sports car) and 185 Alltrac sales didnt even top 100 their last year in 93', it was easy vindication for the beancounters at Toyota about their decision.

- The mid-late 90's also had a shift in the US market which pretty much lead to the death of $30-40k JDM sports cars like the Supra, RX7, 300ZX, and 3000GT.
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Postby MrWOT » Thu Jan 10, 2008 11:28 pm

Yeah, the death of the GT4 was the cost :( Just not enough interest when you could buy a car with similar power for like 6k less. Shoot the 165 went for ~30K in 88. That was a LOT of money for a 200hp vehicle that didn't have much of a customer base (only the people who understood the car really bought it and honestly, that's STILL not many people) :( That's like $36k new nowadays.
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Postby RallyX-GT4 » Sat Jan 19, 2008 7:02 pm

Just got done watching the event that they were caught at... what a bummer. At the end of one of the stages, they had guys crawling under the hood w/scopes, etc. On the spot, they pulled every car for not only the rest of the event and remainder of the season, but well into the future (as you already know).
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Postby ummmiono » Mon Jan 21, 2008 2:20 am

i would like to see that vid. link?
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