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1995 TTE Rally Ban

PostPosted: Wed Nov 02, 2011 7:20 pm
by sMARTINside
Did anyone ever read about how Toyota Team Europe got banned, in 1995, using illegal restrictors?

http://homepage.virgin.net/shalco.com/tte_ban.htm

I just found this interesting to share.

Re: 1995 TTE Rally Ban

PostPosted: Wed Nov 02, 2011 7:36 pm
by Caconman424
Ya I read it on wikipedia. Funny to think restricting a turbo is performance boosting. I understand why but my mindset just says no lol

Re: 1995 TTE Rally Ban

PostPosted: Wed Nov 02, 2011 8:13 pm
by BNZ
It was a huge media scandal back in the days...

Re: 1995 TTE Rally Ban

PostPosted: Wed Nov 02, 2011 9:22 pm
by sMARTINside
Here I found this diagram of the ingenious restrictor:

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Re: 1995 TTE Rally Ban

PostPosted: Thu Nov 03, 2011 12:24 am
by underscore
I can get how it worked once set up, but I can't wrap my head around how it got set up so stealthily and snapped back when you tried to open it up. a video would be handy but seeing as this happenedin 95 I doubt there is any such video.

Re: 1995 TTE Rally Ban

PostPosted: Thu Nov 03, 2011 6:01 am
by BNZ
Now thats a great found :)

Re: 1995 TTE Rally Ban

PostPosted: Mon Nov 21, 2011 9:27 pm
by Tazka
Caconman424 wrote:Ya I read it on wikipedia. Funny to think restricting a turbo is performance boosting. I understand why but my mindset just says no lol

Wait what? who said it's performance boostin restricting a turbo? :D

Re: 1995 TTE Rally Ban

PostPosted: Sat Jan 14, 2012 9:16 pm
by st165-alltrac
would this be why they stopped building alltracs?

Re: 1995 TTE Rally Ban

PostPosted: Sat Jan 14, 2012 11:08 pm
by aus jd 2703
I personally don't believe this had anything to do with Toyota not producing another gt four. If you look at it there hasn't been a sports car since the supra so I think it was a strategic thing to stop making sports cars.

Re: 1995 TTE Rally Ban

PostPosted: Tue Jan 17, 2012 9:03 am
by Tazka
After the ban they released the corolla wrc. And Carlos Sainz nearly won another championship title with it. Rallying was just way to get rep. to the brand. It had nothing to do with toyota suddenly getting all lame. I think the fact that they got full focused with family cars was 100% for business reasons.

I was just a small kid when this came out from tv but i still remember it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aug0LJfP ... ure=fvwrel

Re: 1995 TTE Rally Ban

PostPosted: Sat Jan 21, 2012 6:41 pm
by RedCelicaTRD
From what I read, the drivers wanted to get rid of the Celica in rally. They wanted a car with better seating position and Toyota decided to switch over to the Corolla.

That restrictor bypass was a bad ass design. I've always believed in the old saying, "If your not cheating, your not trying."

Re: 1995 TTE Rally Ban

PostPosted: Tue Jan 24, 2012 10:20 pm
by Dracov
The other problem the Celica suffered from was the body overhang past the front and rear wheels. Especially on the 205 drivers complained they couldn't see where the end of the car was. The Corolla WRC has its wheels at the corners, thus eliminating that problem and improving handling at the same time.

Re: 1995 TTE Rally Ban

PostPosted: Thu Jan 26, 2012 10:32 pm
by st165-alltrac
ok i see. some good info here

Re: 1995 TTE Rally Ban

PostPosted: Sun Jun 03, 2012 4:21 am
by MWP
RedCelicaTRD wrote:I've always believed in the old saying, "If your not cheating, your not trying."


What kind of screwed up saying is that?? :withstupid: