how to upgrade 165 turbo/ic to 2 gen turbo/205ic ** UPDATED*

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Postby saved_1992 » Mon Apr 10, 2006 12:31 pm

man those adapters and lines are outstanding :D

looks like you finally found an answer on what to use for longer studs :wink:

great job
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Postby 88st165 » Mon Apr 10, 2006 3:10 pm

yeah Aaron at rabidchimp.com was very helpful and responded very fast to my emails regarding any questions i had. great customer service and Aaron made the lines to any length i wanted for a great price, way cheaper then if i were to make them myself. also the flange was great quality and cheaper than having the stock flange lines cut off and drilled and tapped by myself or a machine shop.

Kris at KO racing was also very helpful and has great customer service. the adapters are a work of art and the quality is top notch, of course the alltrac community already knew that.

p.s. i am not endorsing either company or trying to sell their products. i am simply stating my experience with them which happen to be an excellent experience and would recomend both rabidchimp.com and KOracing if you needed anything fabricated.

thanks for the compliment saved, some might have done this swap alot cheaper but i wanted to do it like this because i thought this might be better in the long run, everything fit perfectly and i didnt have to guess at bends for force anything into place. its pretty much for piece of mind, plus i am going to run the ct27 hopefully in the near future so i didnt want a possible kinked line to damage a new turbo.
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Postby d1alltrac » Tue Apr 11, 2006 12:01 am

damn those lines are NICE....great job.
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Postby 88st165 » Mon Apr 24, 2006 8:43 pm

what are you guys using to brace the turbo?? b/c i know the st165 turbo brace is no way matching up to the twin entry. also i have the ko d/p brace but that too does not work b/c it is too short about 1/2".... im currently fabbing/hacking up the st165 brace so it will line up with the twin entry bolt hole along with welding more metal onto the ko brace so it will reach the hole on the block.
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Postby saved_1992 » Mon Apr 24, 2006 8:49 pm

i did not use a brace on my set up, but i was planning on doing something just never got around to it :doh:
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Postby 88st165 » Mon Apr 24, 2006 8:52 pm

damn quick response!

anyway, would there be negative effects if i do not have on one? i wouldnt think there would be enough movement to strip out the bolts on the head?
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Postby saved_1992 » Tue Apr 25, 2006 1:09 am

my 165 has been driven over 6-7k without a brace, i was planning on just using a straight piece of steel and just bend the very ends to bolt to the lower hole on the block, then either to under the turbo or to a bolt on the downpipe.
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Postby KORacing » Fri Apr 28, 2006 5:37 am

88st165 wrote:damn quick response!

anyway, would there be negative effects if i do not have on one? i wouldnt think there would be enough movement to strip out the bolts on the head?


I drove around for 6 months with a Street Brawler and no brace, so I imagine you'd be ok. I'm suprised how many clearance issues there are running the 2nd gen turbo. The SB will fit without any spacer behind the 2nd gen manifold. That's what I'd put on a gen 1 :D -- I'd really like to see how it does on one as we haven't yet had one installed and tested on the gen 1.
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Postby 88st165 » Fri Apr 28, 2006 11:56 am

to run the sb kit on the 1st gen is pretty much my final goal for my car but that is a few years down the road for me..... do you think i should still run the downpipe brace b/c im sure i can get it to work with some modification.... also do you think there is some added stress b/c of the spacer b/c the whole assem is further away from the head?
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Postby klue » Fri Apr 28, 2006 4:03 pm

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Check it out and post your intrest please. this will make the swap MUCH easier.
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Postby 88st165 » Fri Apr 28, 2006 7:12 pm

damn, i wish these kits were available before i started but it was fun trying to figure out what would work and gathering all the parts and have it in the end work out great! these kits will make it a hell of alot easier and also perform better in the long run.
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Postby saved_1992 » Fri Jun 30, 2006 8:19 pm

how is everybodys swap running? any issuses that need to post up?
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Postby 88st165 » Fri Jun 30, 2006 11:12 pm

ive only driven mine around the block a few times b/c its getting ready for paint so its basically bare. so far ive gotten it up to 80 going to the gas station and it feels a thousand times better than it did w/ single entry. i still notice lag when punching it in second gear. i cant wait to get my ct27 on and see how that goes. ill report back after my car gets painted and i put it back together and beat on it alittle (next week).

it sounds like the people who have done this have had great success, though it seems that not too many people are interested in taking up this type of mod.
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Postby saved_1992 » Mon Aug 28, 2006 12:00 am

question what does it take to get a sticky done to this :shrug:

is it because it is not to do with a 185 ?

were is the love of modding the 165 :D
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Postby //Zee-Roh// » Mon Sep 04, 2006 6:04 am

I have just now realized the nightmare I've gotten myself into... :cry:

I'm probably going to be hitting this thread up like crazy after I attempt to get it all put in...I just found out a TON more info that I thought was there...

My samco flange is useless now??? :cry: :cry: I have life right now...
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