Looking to Get 400+bhp from st185

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Looking to Get 400+bhp from st185

Postby brian008 » Sun Apr 15, 2012 3:59 pm

hi all

Im looking to get 400+bhp out of My st185. i have the internals to handle it with an upgraded turbo but i need more tips on how to get 400 out of her.

thanks in advance :D
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Re: Looking to Get 400+bhp from st185

Postby MrDB » Sun Apr 15, 2012 4:23 pm

Aftermarket Ecu, better intercooling bigger injectors, better clutch, improve engine cooling,oil cooling etc etc etc... But before that better brakes and suspension to handle the power..
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Re: Looking to Get 400+bhp from st185

Postby brian008 » Sun Apr 15, 2012 4:47 pm

im getting my car chipped, will that do or would you you suggest upgrade the ecu completely ?
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Re: Looking to Get 400+bhp from st185

Postby Corey » Sun Apr 15, 2012 5:07 pm

http://www.mrcontrols.com/primers/power.htm

This is the general go to source of info on upgrading the 3SGTE
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Re: Looking to Get 400+bhp from st185

Postby 2of81 » Sun Apr 15, 2012 5:10 pm

What turbo?

Closest "chip" to do it would be a ROM tune with a 550cc injector tune.

http://www.atsracing.net/Parts/Details/E-ROMTUNE
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Re: Looking to Get 400+bhp from st185

Postby brian008 » Mon Apr 16, 2012 6:31 am

hi i have a stage 1 turbo i will post more info when get back from work
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Re: Looking to Get 400+bhp from st185

Postby 4rsnduction » Mon Apr 16, 2012 7:34 am

Go into more detail on what "chipped" means, what it includes and such.
What is a stage 1 turbo ?
How about some serious figures aye.....

Ignoring randomness, parts needed for 400awhp+ would be :
- Full Standalone ECU
- 850cc top feed injectors
- Top feed fuel rail in -8AN size
- Adjustable FPR
- 255L fuel pump or greater
- 264 degree cams with at least 9.8mm lift
- 1mm oversize valves (not 100% necessary)
- Shim under bucket at a minimum or shimless buckets if you have the money.
- Large front mount intercooler with water spray OR Toyota top mount water to air with water injection
- Turbo capable of at least 24psi upto redline
- Remove stock oil cooler, install oil filter relocation kit with a cooler
- Total cooling system renew : new thermostat, flush the block and possibly replace your radiator if its worn and old.
- Clutch and appropriate flywheel, nothing worse than being n00b and installing 6puk copper clutch on a stock flywheel.

This is assuming that your car is in 100% perfect condition and everything else is brand new, if not you also need basic things like new colder spark plugs, silicone ignition leads, new dizzy (cap, rotor, seals, open it, do internal seals) high flow foam air filter, catch can for PCV, remove exhaust restrictions like cat and mid pipe muffler, decent grounding kit if yours is old and crusty, engine and transmission mounts.....

As we move away from the engine things like gear box, transfer box and rear diff need to be in tip top condition with that much horsepower going though them, all the bushes need to be fresh, more power creates more vibrational resonance, and worn out bushes amplify this at certain RPM points. Other things like wheel bearings should be at least checked, new suspension and brakes to stop all this new power.

Don't be one of those ppl who spend every dollar they have on an engine build and has a s**t car for the engine to live in....
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Re: Looking to Get 400+bhp from st185

Postby brian008 » Mon Apr 16, 2012 3:55 pm

@ 4rsnduction thanks for that sorry about lack of info but all new to me. I appreciate the post though as i will het it printed out and work though the list. im not in a hurry to do it. just wanted to get a feel of what is involved.

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Re: Looking to Get 400+bhp from st185

Postby boost_creep » Mon Apr 16, 2012 9:19 pm

brian008, i would suggest you read more and follow the mrcontrols link that "corey darling" gave you... :D
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Re: Looking to Get 400+bhp from st185

Postby brian008 » Tue Apr 17, 2012 4:22 pm

boost_creep wrote:brian008, i would suggest you read more and follow the mrcontrols link that "corey darling" gave you... :D

will do mate but as i said im not going to rush this. i ordered a few bits for it. i got a performance chip and a a FCD for it so ill fit those and see how i get on with that

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Re: Looking to Get 400+bhp from st185

Postby awolo » Tue Apr 17, 2012 4:37 pm

4rsnduction wrote:Go into more detail on what "chipped" means, what it includes and such.
What is a stage 1 turbo ?
How about some serious figures aye.....

Ignoring randomness, parts needed for 400awhp+ would be :
- Full Standalone ECU
- 850cc top feed injectors
- Top feed fuel rail in -8AN size
- Adjustable FPR
- 255L fuel pump or greater
- 264 degree cams with at least 9.8mm lift
- 1mm oversize valves (not 100% necessary)
- Shim under bucket at a minimum or shimless buckets if you have the money.
- Large front mount intercooler with water spray OR Toyota top mount water to air with water injection
- Turbo capable of at least 24psi upto redline
- Remove stock oil cooler, install oil filter relocation kit with a cooler
- Total cooling system renew : new thermostat, flush the block and possibly replace your radiator if its worn and old.
- Clutch and appropriate flywheel, nothing worse than being n00b and installing 6puk copper clutch on a stock flywheel.

This is assuming that your car is in 100% perfect condition and everything else is brand new, if not you also need basic things like new colder spark plugs, silicone ignition leads, new dizzy (cap, rotor, seals, open it, do internal seals) high flow foam air filter, catch can for PCV, remove exhaust restrictions like cat and mid pipe muffler, decent grounding kit if yours is old and crusty, engine and transmission mounts.....

As we move away from the engine things like gear box, transfer box and rear diff need to be in tip top condition with that much horsepower going though them, all the bushes need to be fresh, more power creates more vibrational resonance, and worn out bushes amplify this at certain RPM points. Other things like wheel bearings should be at least checked, new suspension and brakes to stop all this new power.

Don't be one of those ppl who spend every dollar they have on an engine build and has a s**t car for the engine to live in....


x10000000

There's no sense putting a brand new built motor into a car/body/drivetrain that cant even handle it.
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Re: Looking to Get 400+bhp from st185

Postby celica_gtx » Sat Apr 21, 2012 3:02 am

Corey Darling wrote:http://www.mrcontrols.com/primers/power.htm

This is the general go to source of info on upgrading the 3SGTE




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