Group A from OZ

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Re: Group A from OZ

Postby Puffy » Fri Oct 15, 2010 2:39 pm

I think I deleted my youtube user by accident :doh:
Update... because leaves asked :D

Decided to participate rather than spectate in Toyfest this year and had an awesome time.
Excellent variety of modern and classic toyotas :notworthy:

... the car picked up a trophy which was a nice surprise.

Some pics

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Re: Group A from OZ

Postby CMS-GT4 » Fri Oct 15, 2010 5:00 pm

Looking great.
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Re: Group A from OZ

Postby Sal » Sat Oct 16, 2010 5:03 am

Beautiful example of a 185. Your motor is pristine!
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Re: Group A from OZ

Postby athousandleaves » Tue Oct 19, 2010 4:50 am

Puffy wrote:Update... because leaves asked :D


Thanks for the update!
I just took my car off the road this week to begin an almost complete restoration and RC swap on it over the next year(s) so seeing other alltracs in amazing shape really helped keep my spirits up.

Your wiring tuck is a really really well done. I'd love to see a writeup or some links to others that influenced yours if you have anything to share.

Puffy wrote:I have 205 calipers running 320x32mm DBA's. I designed the hubs to spec so no spacers needed and everything is centric.

Somehow I never noticed that you were running this 205 brake setup!
I've been racking my brain all summer on designs for a custom DBA hat/rotor to work with the 205 brakes.
Can you pm/post some more details as to your design because they don't list any seemingly compatible hats on their page.

If I ever end up down under I will certainly visit you for a ride!

I know it's been said before but your car is definitely a work of art and is well deserving of high praise.

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Re: Group A from OZ

Postby Puffy » Wed Oct 20, 2010 1:55 pm

Good luck with restoration mate. I will keep an eye on the RC swap.

I have no guide since it was such a big learning curve for me so can only offer some advice.

Install an aftermarket ECU... eliminates AFM, Injector resistor packs, stock ignitor and associated wires / plugs.
If you are not comfortable in wiring up an aftermarket ECU then recommend you do not attempt a wire tuck on a GT4.

Arm yourself with all the wire diagrams you can download., Print them out and sticky tape them together as a map and learn to read them.

GOLDEN RULE: If I did not know what it is for then I cannot cut it until identified. TAG EVERYTHING you cut.

My wire layout is basically this:
Injectors, distributor and TPS wires between intake manifold runners and through stock hole in firewall connected to ECU.
ABS, Alternator, headlights, thermo fans, blinkers, boost solenoid inside guards, re connecting to main fuse box located in glove box and re distribute from box to battery / starter motor & kick panel = interior power.
Starter motor, speed sensor, reverse light switch through stock hole in passenger footwell connecting to main fuse box, kick panel for reverse light & dashboard for speed sensor.

Lots of sorting, cutting, extending and reconnecting. Make sure you use the same gauge wires when extending and solid joins.
I re wired a lot of the interior which was a painful :bangshead: ... leave it alone :crazy:
Stay focused when tracing wires, its a maze that can be daunting. Many wires loop onto themselves, split into plugs and change color.

The DBA's are aftermarket items for Mitsubishi Evo 7/8/9. The Evo and Audi S8 were only available in 32mm thickness at the time so not sure if that has changed.
No compatible hats as you saw.... STi WRX ones you might get away with but the offset again will cause problems.
I ended up learning CAD and milled out a custom set. Below are pics of the brake setup coming together.

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Re: Group A from OZ

Postby CMS-GT4 » Wed Oct 20, 2010 2:00 pm

Nice job on the rotor hats
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Re: Group A from OZ

Postby Puffy » Wed Oct 20, 2010 2:20 pm

Thanks CMS... really keen to see how the RAV4 hub / brake project works out 8)
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Re: Group A from OZ

Postby aus jd 2703 » Fri Oct 22, 2010 1:25 am

hey puffy i have 205 calipers, what exactly will i have to do to get them to fit like urs?
did u maching the caliper or adda spacer/bracket?
if u dont mind how much did your hats and rotors set u back?
sorry its one of the nicer set ups using 205 brakes hence all my questions
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Re: Group A from OZ

Postby Puffy » Fri Oct 22, 2010 3:24 am

Hi Aus, I got the rotors for about $600.
I used a bracket to mount the caliper but could have filled and re tapped the original caliper mounting holes :shrug:
No spacers used. The inner hub offset aligned the rotor center in the caliper, mindful of the clearance of the lower ball joint,
The outer hub offset pushes the wheels out giving wheel clearance from the caliper whilst staying inline with the guard.
Needed to get extended wheel studs.

I do not think the hubs would be cheap.... I did all the specs, design and with mates rates it still hurt.
They need to be milled from T6061 hardened grade aluminium and not many companies are interested in one offs.

If it gets too hard... just order a set of these CP5570-1018.G8 8)
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Re: Group A from OZ

Postby DeeCee » Tue Jan 11, 2011 4:25 am

Puffy - just checking through mightycarmods and you got a little air time :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MjPnP__xJkc
GT Four Adovansu "I want to enjoy the powerful and nimble agility behavior."

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Re: Group A from OZ

Postby Puffy » Tue Jan 11, 2011 9:46 am

Thanks DeeCee.... did not see that.
Even if it was just the engine bay for a split second :P
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Re: Group A from OZ

Postby ST185pinjo » Fri Jan 14, 2011 5:17 am

Hey Puffy,

Do you have some action vids ? I want to hear that thing roar.
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Re: Group A from OZ

Postby alltracst185 » Fri Jan 14, 2011 3:23 pm

My fav st185 :D I aspire to get my engine bay looking just as clean :notworthy:
st185- HKS exhaust, Aussie mid pipe and custom 3" down pipe, Tial 50mm BOV, HKS 272 cams, HKS adj cam gears, custom FMIC, HKS GT3040, Tial 38mm wastegate, AEM ems, fully built bottom end, RC 1200cc injectors, at 25 lbs and almost complete :D
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Re: Group A from OZ

Postby Puffy » Mon Apr 11, 2011 9:13 am

Gave it a wash today and took some pics as proof :D
Stock interior is in along with seat belts and parcel tray.
ST205 spare fits nicely in the 185 boot well.
I lifted the JICS by an inch also

Got some "chatter noise" from the rear which increases with speed and disappears when I lightly apply the hand brake so will need to try find the problem.

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Re: Group A from OZ

Postby DeeCee » Mon Apr 11, 2011 9:34 am

beautiful pics Puffy - you've become my new desktop surpassing Juha Kankkunen on a jump with Kilimanjaro in the background!
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