best turbo???

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Postby illGT4 » Thu Sep 30, 2004 11:33 pm

toayoztan wrote:As far as the td06sh 20g, can someone explain in terms of spool time, lag time, is it low/mid/high end turbo, etc? I don't care much bout the specs YET (AR, turbine size, etc), i'm just trying to get a feel of the overall turbo's performance, not specs.

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It's a "medium" sized turbo. Spool isn't bad at all. Depends on your setup. I just saw a plot of an ATS modified TD-06 reaching full boost at ~3200rpm. That's with an ext. gate, modified lines and it's also water cooled.

The TD-06 will put down anything from 300awhp-400awhp. And then some if you want to go all out.

I rode in Herman's car with TD-06. At the time he was running rich, but I didn't notice bad spool characteristics at all.

As with most turbochargers its size, they really start to shine above 1 bar of boost.
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Postby shoteh » Fri Oct 01, 2004 12:19 am

how much are you planning to spend...if green is unlimited...T78 or the GT35...but plan on spending much more for extra stuff ie ecu, fm, arm n leg. Sorry this mayb be big jump from stock. hehe
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Postby enzytebob » Fri Oct 01, 2004 2:22 am

toayoztan wrote:As far as the td06sh 20g, can someone explain in terms of spool time, lag time, is it low/mid/high end turbo, etc? I don't care much bout the specs YET (AR, turbine size, etc), i'm just trying to get a feel of the overall turbo's performance, not specs.

Thanks!
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A TD06 is a more than worthy replacement to the Ct26 in terms of all around power, ability to hold boost and to pull hard to the redline. It starts to manifest itself at around 3,000 rpm. I estimate a 25 to 30 percent overall improvement compared to even an upgraded ct26. The biggest benefits are that unlike the stock turbo, the TD06 will keep boosting hard all the way and reacts well to further mods.
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Postby illGT4 » Fri Oct 01, 2004 5:30 am

shoteh wrote:how much are you planning to spend...if green is unlimited...T78 or the GT35...but plan on spending much more for extra stuff ie ecu, fm, arm n leg


All in all about 10-12k more. I've already got about 19k into it now. :(

I've already got a line on the other stuff.. just narrowing it down to which turbo and what ic route.

Dude the T78 and GT35 are waaaay too big for me. I don't want to wait that long for boost. ;)
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Postby illGT4 » Fri Oct 01, 2004 5:31 am

enzytebob wrote:

A TD06 is a more than worthy replacement to the Ct26 in terms of all around power, ability to hold boost and to pull hard to the redline. It starts to manifest itself at around 3,000 rpm. I estimate a 25 to 30 percent overall improvement compared to even an upgraded ct26. The biggest benefits are that unlike the stock turbo, the TD06 will keep boosting hard all the way and reacts well to further mods.


Exactly.. Plus it's been around a while.
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Re: best turbo???

Postby Wraith » Sat Oct 02, 2004 1:16 am

billprice wrote:
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toytech wrote:I have a gt2540r with a .64 ar brand new fro sale now... :D


I dont need a GT2540R it wouldnt support my power needs. I have a GT4088R currently...


Of course you do. And if you install that on a 3SGTE, you can hit the gas and wait a few days for the boost to hit. LOL.

I'm not running a 3s-gte ... I have a 5s-gte with a 75 shot of NOS for spool up ... So I'm will to lose bottom end for top end power to get me down the track...
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Re: best turbo???

Postby furpo » Sun Oct 03, 2004 9:41 am

Wraith wrote:
billprice wrote:
Wraith wrote:
toytech wrote:I have a gt2540r with a .64 ar brand new fro sale now... :D


I dont need a GT2540R it wouldnt support my power needs. I have a GT4088R currently...


Of course you do. And if you install that on a 3SGTE, you can hit the gas and wait a few days for the boost to hit. LOL.

I'm not running a 3s-gte ... I have a 5s-gte with a 75 shot of NOS for spool up ... So I'm will to lose bottom end for top end power to get me down the track...


nice :D :D

is there another link to the photos of your car other than the ones on your www tab? i am not a member so can not see them.

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Re: best turbo???

Postby Wraith » Sun Oct 03, 2004 8:43 pm

furpo wrote:
Wraith wrote:
billprice wrote:
Wraith wrote:
toytech wrote:I have a gt2540r with a .64 ar brand new fro sale now... :D


I dont need a GT2540R it wouldnt support my power needs. I have a GT4088R currently...


Of course you do. And if you install that on a 3SGTE, you can hit the gas and wait a few days for the boost to hit. LOL.

I'm not running a 3s-gte ... I have a 5s-gte with a 75 shot of NOS for spool up ... So I'm will to lose bottom end for top end power to get me down the track...


nice :D :D

is there another link to the photos of your car other than the ones on your www tab? i am not a member so can not see them.

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Postby furpo » Sun Oct 03, 2004 10:52 pm

thanks for that. dam i must look stupid not getting that earlier.

i had a look and i am very impressed.

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Postby shoteh » Fri Oct 08, 2004 3:18 pm

wraith , what did you hit in your movie? thump
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Postby Wraith » Fri Oct 08, 2004 7:37 pm

shoteh wrote:wraith , what did you hit in your movie? thump


hit big rail rod tracks at 70mph ... no good..
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Postby CMS-GT4 » Fri Oct 08, 2004 7:53 pm

How bout telling more about your intake manifold here:

http://www.alltrac.net/phpBB2/viewtopic ... 7&start=30

On topic, I wonder how the td06 would spool on a 2.2l. I am still concidering the stroker path.

The mitus turbos are a good option for those on a budget. uses the same 3sgte manifold adapter as the greddy type, which gary had a link for them costing around $55. then you just got to have a dp made. You could get away with a decent 340+hp turbo in the 700-800 range. On that note it would have a warranty too if you get it from haun (sp).
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Postby enzytebob » Fri Oct 08, 2004 8:31 pm

CMS-GT4 wrote:How bout telling more about your intake manifold here:

http://www.alltrac.net/phpBB2/viewtopic ... 7&start=30

On topic, I wonder how the td06 would spool on a 2.2l. I am still concidering the stroker path.

The mitus turbos are a good option for those on a budget. uses the same 3sgte manifold adapter as the greddy type, which gary had a link for them costing around $55. then you just got to have a dp made. You could get away with a decent 340+hp turbo in the 700-800 range. On that note it would have a warranty too if you get it from haun (sp).


I've been enjoying my td06sh now for the past two months. If you were to ask what one mod would make the biggest impact it would be this or a T3/T4 Garrett turbo, assuming you'll be happy w/ 350-425 hp. If you're looking for more, then you'll need an even bigger turbo. But these two turbos will happily support upper 300hp levels. Even now, with an engine that is basically stock, I'm enjoying the heck out of it, remembering not too long ago how my upgraded ct26 would just quit on me at around 5,250 rpm. Now, I have to restrain myself! :D Go for it. You won't be sorry. I got lucky and bought a slightly used MR2 Greddy kit for cheap. Absolutely no fitment problems at all. Everything lined up perfectly. I even was able to use the original heat shield. To the untrained eye it looks stock.

With you're plans for a stroked 3S, that should make for a really,really good daily driver that keeps you smiling or a great platform from which to get even more power. my $.02
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Postby strracerx » Fri Oct 08, 2004 10:59 pm

how does that tdo6 compare to ATS's ct27?
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Postby Griffin » Fri Oct 08, 2004 11:05 pm

I have a stage 2 CT26 with a big wheel - I makeplenty of power up top, but the spool time is too much, even with the freeflowing intake and exhaust.

I reccomend a GT30R or GT35R - its what I wish I would have gotten - slightly more power and even faster spool.

Don't get me wrong - the modded CT26 works well, but unless you launch in boost it takes a while for it to put you back in the seat.
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