ST165 front mount intercooler???
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Defiantly possible.
It will drop your charge temps considerably over the stock WTA IC. My understanding is this will allow you to run more boost if you want, or *should* increase HP on stock boost since the temps will be much better.
FMIC also LESS susceptible to heat soak because it's farther away from the engine temps and in the direct flow of incoming air.
Some guys with ST165 I'm sure can chime in with what setups they are running and what size IC's fit the stock bumper.
-Towels
It will drop your charge temps considerably over the stock WTA IC. My understanding is this will allow you to run more boost if you want, or *should* increase HP on stock boost since the temps will be much better.
FMIC also LESS susceptible to heat soak because it's farther away from the engine temps and in the direct flow of incoming air.
Some guys with ST165 I'm sure can chime in with what setups they are running and what size IC's fit the stock bumper.
-Towels
Gary ST165
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or u can just relocate ur battery and place a real nice 2.5"/2.5" WTA core and use a larger heat exchanger like a radiator off a late 90's vw with a 10-12" electric fan and the constant run mod on the ic...... do some research a well done WTA is best for cooling the charge and it cools from the get-go but ATA is lighter, less complicated, and looks better to most.
Heres a possibility/idea,
Use an escort cosworth frontmount, has a charge cooler built into air to air cooler. Run current charge cooler water lines to it and have best of both. Intercooler is small also and supports approx 400bhp. Im running a sierra cosworth a2a one in my 185 now difference on mine was awesome.
Use an escort cosworth frontmount, has a charge cooler built into air to air cooler. Run current charge cooler water lines to it and have best of both. Intercooler is small also and supports approx 400bhp. Im running a sierra cosworth a2a one in my 185 now difference on mine was awesome.
gearhead313
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Red Rabbit
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Klas is running a FMIC in his st165 at the moment, just hit up his thread in the my project alltrac section of the forum.
By room, i think he may have meant airflow to the FMIC.
In any case, War Towels, i think you meant the fmic is less susceptible to heat soak :wink:
I'd say go for an FMIC if you can, however, i don't think there's really many bumpers out there (except maybe what Mafix used) to open enough clearance for good air flow to the FMIC.
Bryan
In any case, War Towels, i think you meant the fmic is less susceptible to heat soak :wink:
I'd say go for an FMIC if you can, however, i don't think there's really many bumpers out there (except maybe what Mafix used) to open enough clearance for good air flow to the FMIC.
Bryan
86turboswap
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I am using a ST185 RC vent in my ST165 with a ST185RC W:A Intercooler,
gonna use a large heat exchanger & build a duct hooked into the front grill to directly route the air through the Heat exchanger. Might use a small fan but I don't think it will be necessary in combonation with dual stage water injection.
gonna use a large heat exchanger & build a duct hooked into the front grill to directly route the air through the Heat exchanger. Might use a small fan but I don't think it will be necessary in combonation with dual stage water injection.
88Allheeze
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i got some pics on my putfile www.putfile.com/88allheeze
Azonic":1yevnh40 said:
Unlikely to noticeably increase lag, at least in my experience. Pressurization time for a system even with extensive plumbing is suprisingly quick.
Pressure drop across the IC core will depend largely upon the design and efficiency of the core, hence why it's a good idea to use reputable brands if you have the $$$$
so really the answer is yes even if it sounds like no...
There is incresed time...(even if insignificant)
and pressure drop will exist in an increase over stock ATW unless you drop some major coin, and we all know how often we are willin to do that?
Lol..
Anyway, my point is this..
Do what you need to make the ATW system more efficient,
or spend the money on the ATW, and end up with a better system all around...
There is incresed time...(even if insignificant)
and pressure drop will exist in an increase over stock ATW unless you drop some major coin, and we all know how often we are willin to do that?
Lol..
Anyway, my point is this..
Do what you need to make the ATW system more efficient,
or spend the money on the ATW, and end up with a better system all around...
Azonic":1kptpumk said:
Increased 'lag' time will likely be so insignificant you will not notce it, so not a big deal.
I have not owned a 165 but I would imagine the stock WTA core is not very efficient anyway so one would expect to experience significant pressure drop across the stock setup. Perhaps someone here has a pressure differential gauge and an ST165 and can measure it :wink:
Swapping to a frontmount ATA, even a cheap one, would most likely not result in a significantly greater pressure drop over stock, if any.
The reason I mentioned getting a 'brand name' core is that you are more likely to get a quality piece. It doesn't mean that there will be no improvement with a cheaper setup, hence why many people do this mod - it will be an improvement.
86turboswap
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I still like the clean looks of the ST185RC W/A Intercooler, it does a great job at cooling the charge I drove the car pretty hard for about 3 miles on the highway getting up to 120mph & pulled over & felt the IC core & it was cool to the touch 5 mins later still pretty cool, by no means hot. And it's 115 here every summer. That was with a larger heat exchanger, a electric fan, and a SVT Ford Lightning Intercooler Pump. I also had a ST185RC vent in my ST165 hood.
brutekiller787
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For me, simplicity is built in with a fmic, its really the only way to go. No pumps to go bad, no coolant to leak, no problems, just bead roll the ends of all piping and use t bolt clamps and you will never have a problem.
Oh and the "problem" 3sgte's have with running the middle two cylinders lean? 3sge manifold, with front mount.
Oh and the "problem" 3sgte's have with running the middle two cylinders lean? 3sge manifold, with front mount.