ST165 front mount intercooler???

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Postby Fourplay » Wed Nov 14, 2007 10:04 pm

Azonic wrote:Would the FMIC increase the turbo lag, and increase the pressure drop from the TM WTA IC?


Unlikely to noticeably increase lag, at least in my experience. Pressurization time for a system even with extensive plumbing is suprisingly quick.

Pressure drop across the IC core will depend largely upon the design and efficiency of the core, hence why it's a good idea to use reputable brands if you have the $$$$
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Postby Azonic » Thu Nov 15, 2007 2:08 pm

so really the answer is yes even if it sounds like no...

There is incresed time...(even if insignificant)
and pressure drop will exist in an increase over stock ATW unless you drop some major coin, and we all know how often we are willin to do that?

Lol..

Anyway, my point is this..

Do what you need to make the ATW system more efficient,
or spend the money on the ATW, and end up with a better system all around...
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Postby Fourplay » Thu Nov 15, 2007 7:29 pm

Azonic wrote:There is incresed time...(even if insignificant)
and pressure drop will exist in an increase over stock ATW unless you drop some major coin


Increased 'lag' time will likely be so insignificant you will not notce it, so not a big deal.

I have not owned a 165 but I would imagine the stock WTA core is not very efficient anyway so one would expect to experience significant pressure drop across the stock setup. Perhaps someone here has a pressure differential gauge and an ST165 and can measure it :wink:

Swapping to a frontmount ATA, even a cheap one, would most likely not result in a significantly greater pressure drop over stock, if any.

The reason I mentioned getting a 'brand name' core is that you are more likely to get a quality piece. It doesn't mean that there will be no improvement with a cheaper setup, hence why many people do this mod - it will be an improvement.
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Postby 86turboswap » Fri Nov 16, 2007 4:41 am

I still like the clean looks of the ST185RC W/A Intercooler, it does a great job at cooling the charge I drove the car pretty hard for about 3 miles on the highway getting up to 120mph & pulled over & felt the IC core & it was cool to the touch 5 mins later still pretty cool, by no means hot. And it's 115 here every summer. That was with a larger heat exchanger, a electric fan, and a SVT Ford Lightning Intercooler Pump. I also had a ST185RC vent in my ST165 hood.
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Re: ST165 front mount intercooler???

Postby brutekiller787 » Tue Mar 26, 2013 6:39 pm

For me, simplicity is built in with a fmic, its really the only way to go. No pumps to go bad, no coolant to leak, no problems, just bead roll the ends of all piping and use t bolt clamps and you will never have a problem.

Oh and the "problem" 3sgte's have with running the middle two cylinders lean? 3sge manifold, with front mount.
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Re: ST165 front mount intercooler???

Postby Mafix » Tue Mar 26, 2013 6:46 pm

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Re: ST165 front mount intercooler???

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Re: ST165 front mount intercooler???

Postby GT4_Vinnie » Thu Apr 11, 2013 8:17 am

My setup, I've gone straight intake, clocked the turbo, and running FMIC, 600x300x78, have half cut the bonnet support, and have mounted to the bumper brace. stock bumper clears, just looks a little low, but that's how I did it on my 165, was gonna make a custom setup, but got pre made pipes, so just did it like that.

Haven't got any pics with the bumper on, but yes it does clear.


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Postby Klas » Thu Apr 11, 2013 11:22 am

Here you go!
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Red Rabbit wrote:Klas is running a FMIC in his st165 at the moment, just hit up his thread in the my project alltrac section of the forum.
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Re: ST165 front mount intercooler???

Postby STWagon » Mon Jul 29, 2013 1:57 pm

sometime soon I will be having a custom bar made for the front bumper, so I can use a mid mount set up for the IC. if there's enough interest, I may be able to get a kit together for purchase.

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Re: ST165 front mount intercooler???

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