Visual differences between 3s-gte generations...?

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Visual differences between 3s-gte generations...?

Postby creech_r » Fri Apr 04, 2014 6:40 am

Sooooo, guess who might be back....!

I came across a guy trying to unload a "jdm 3sgte with awd tranny ecu wiring turbo inter-cooler and all other accessories". He doesn't know the Gen of the motor but 'some guy looked at it and told me it was a Gen 2'. It's supposedly been sitting in storage for quite a few years, his project died, blah blah blah. I know I'm going to need to go through it but I actually am in a position where I have the ability to start working on getting my car back on the road...

I just need to know what generation I'm looking at to give myself and him a fair price for the whole shebang. I know most of the differences but a refresher course would be fantastic. In true non-newb fashion, I have searched for the answer prior to asking. If your search comes up with an answer nicely compiled answer, then please be so kind to linky me and I'll be out of your hair.

Are there part numbers that tell the transmissions apart?
The block?
I know gen1 and gen2 have tvis
I believe gen1 has wta. gen2 rc does as well. gen3 does.
gen1 and gen2 have similar if not the same valve cover I think.

any help is appreciated. Pictures even more so.

(I pop on here every month or two and check the for sale stuff...just dreaming to have my 'trac back on the road)
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Re: Visual differences between 3s-gte generations...?

Postby psipwrd » Fri Apr 04, 2014 8:19 am

I wondered the same when my new block had some differences. The first link may have pics.

http://www.gtfours.co.uk
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Re: Visual differences between 3s-gte generations...?

Postby creech_r » Mon Apr 21, 2014 6:05 pm

Here's some pics of it. More coming.
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Re: Visual differences between 3s-gte generations...?

Postby creech_r » Mon Apr 21, 2014 6:07 pm

What do you guys think? No air flow sensor comes with it. He's looking for $1k and it comes with the alltrac tranny.
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Re: Visual differences between 3s-gte generations...?

Postby celicast184 » Mon Apr 21, 2014 6:20 pm

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Re: Visual differences between 3s-gte generations...?

Postby fussellbug » Mon Apr 21, 2014 6:31 pm

The ECU is from a JDM ST185 GT4
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Re: Visual differences between 3s-gte generations...?

Postby sinerasis » Mon Apr 21, 2014 6:38 pm

2nd gen as mentioned.

No AFM and the pictures make that thing look real dirty. Plus sitting for years?

I'd pass for 1k.
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Re: Visual differences between 3s-gte generations...?

Postby creech_r » Mon Apr 21, 2014 6:40 pm

sinerasis wrote:2nd gen as mentioned.

No AFM and the pictures make that thing look real dirty. Plus sitting for years?

I'd pass for 1k.


That's kind of what I was thinking. Thank you!
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Re: Visual differences between 3s-gte generations...?

Postby soarer.jzz30 » Mon Apr 21, 2014 8:07 pm

Run like heck or offer him 400
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Re: Visual differences between 3s-gte generations...?

Postby creech_r » Mon Apr 21, 2014 8:17 pm

soarer.jzz30 wrote:Run like heck or offer him 400


Haha, any particular reason for that price?
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Re: Visual differences between 3s-gte generations...?

Postby soarer.jzz30 » Tue Apr 22, 2014 7:17 am

It's old. In terrible condition, clutch is rusted. You'll have to replace and rebuild everything, without a compression check you don't know anything about it, no warranty. And above all else... You can buy a gen3 on eBay for 1300... A gen2 usdm for 800. They are newer and most have thirty day warranties, leak down tests, and are in considerably better shape on most occasions...
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Postby WarTowels » Tue Apr 22, 2014 8:33 am

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Re: Visual differences between 3s-gte generations...?

Postby soarer.jzz30 » Tue Apr 22, 2014 9:08 am

Kid got a hold of phone my apologies.
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Re: Visual differences between 3s-gte generations...?

Postby soarer.jzz30 » Tue Apr 22, 2014 9:09 am

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Re: Visual differences between 3s-gte generations...?

Postby creech_r » Tue Apr 22, 2014 1:04 pm

Thank you. Saving my pennies for a gen 3 which is what I promised myself I'd do anyway.
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