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ARC topmounts

Postby zero06 » Wed Sep 03, 2014 7:43 pm

So I have In my possession an ARC top mount intercooler. As a welder by trade I could easily take measurements/fabricate new ones. I also have a junker parts alltrac I could mock them up on to insure fitment 8). I could also include BOV flanges and maybe strait intakes for recirc. would anyone be interested?
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Re: ARC topmounts

Postby peteleetzor » Wed Sep 03, 2014 7:53 pm

yes please :notworthy: :notworthy:
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Re: ARC topmounts

Postby zero06 » Wed Sep 03, 2014 8:01 pm

thanks peteleetzor! If I get a good amount of responses/Interest I will make It happen. This wouldn't just be limited to top mounts, I could really make a lot of stuff happen, Fmic kits, W2a kits, intakes, ect. but Im only going to invest in the material if I know I have buyers.
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Re: ARC topmounts

Postby MacGyver » Thu Sep 04, 2014 12:23 am

As I'm fairly sure I'm not the only poor trac owner on the forum got any idea what kind of price tag this would have?
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Re: ARC topmounts

Postby msanders2 » Thu Sep 04, 2014 12:40 am

Interested as well. If you could offer them in the $300-350ish range that would be great.
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Re: ARC topmounts

Postby zero06 » Thu Sep 04, 2014 1:21 am

under 400 isn't possible the Intercooler core itself runs about $300. It looks like arc used two different sizes of sc5 pipe equivalent and a bit of flat stock. all aluminum of course. then I have to buy wire, argon and weld consumables. i figure each one is about 5-6 hours of work for me with purge and fitment. materials and delivery I doubt my cost will be under 500. Im pretty sure it would be around $700-800
Im pretty sure the arc's ran 900 new and i'm sure their profit margin was higher due to bulk material orders.

my only other option would be to find a chinese manufacturer, then bulk, time, quality and morality come into question.
Id like to re-create a quality product that has been taken off the market, not a cheaply made knockoff.
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Re: ARC topmounts

Postby 91celicagt4 » Sun Sep 14, 2014 6:37 am

Honestly Is too much for a top mount intercooler. I used to have one on my mazdaspeed3 from CPE, only cost $400. U might have to lower the price in order for ppl to be interested! Just my 2 cents.
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Re: ARC topmounts

Postby zero06 » Mon Sep 15, 2014 1:44 am

I can't make these for less than cost. We are talking a North American made product. I see there is no interest I will not be making top mounts. This thread can be closed
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Re: ARC topmounts

Postby Hotrodhendrix » Wed Nov 26, 2014 5:08 pm

ARC's seem to have sold and still sell for a good amount. I am sure some would sell even if you did in small batches. Probably some over seas orders also where the GT_Four owner seem less cheap haha. Just a thought.
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Re: ARC topmounts

Postby Brad_91 » Thu Nov 27, 2014 5:27 pm

Do you have air temps showing how efficient it is vs stock topmount? For $700-$800 people are going to want to know the product, and it seems like you have scared some people away with a "big" price tag..

I think our cars are worth something like this if it is worthwhile though! Not sure what someone would pay for a quality front mount set-up, but it can't be cheaper than that? :shrug:

My GT-Four is still stock-ish and probably would not benefit much from this upgrade, or else I would be interested more. What kind of benefits would an upgraded top mount give? I know the stock top mounts are not great, but are aftermarket ones proven to function much more efficiently?
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Re: ARC topmounts

Postby Corey » Tue Dec 02, 2014 6:45 pm

Rest assured - an ARC TMIC is a worthwhile upgrade. I've been running one for about 6 years now up to 22 psi at times on the stock turbo. At the time I paid ~$500 for it (used).

You will notice a 2 psi increase in boost pressure on a stock setup with no boost control - that's how my car reacted to the install.

This will require a custom intake scoop duct to ensure proper cooling.
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Re: ARC topmounts

Postby underscore » Tue Dec 02, 2014 7:38 pm

IIRC the ARC TMIC is actually better than a FMIC setup.
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Re: ARC topmounts

Postby Corey » Tue Dec 02, 2014 8:26 pm

I'm not sure if it's better than a FMIC, but it's certainly easier to install and is still susceptable to heat soak. But it cools down quickly.
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Re: ARC topmounts

Postby klue » Wed Dec 03, 2014 1:36 am

The stock top mount is not a great unit, it is also very restrictive. Making a newer unit with modern core technology will undoubtedly yield gains in both overall cooling efficiency and spool up time.
Great solution when you factory in the ease of install.

Ultimately a PROPERLY (key word) designed FMIC set up will cool more efficiently, sacrificing some spool up time.
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Re: ARC topmounts

Postby saved_1992 » Wed Dec 03, 2014 2:09 am

What about fixing a bayarea top mount that fitment is slightly off.
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