ST185 Engine into ST165 all trac

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ST185 Engine into ST165 all trac

Postby Alter Ego » Wed Aug 25, 2004 10:04 pm

Anyone have a link to some info on doing this swap or a link? I just picked up an 88 alltrac with great body, excellent interior, but it needs a head and for the price of getting a head and getting it ready to put in I could pay a little more and get jdm motor.

Just want to know how much is involved or any problems with putting the ST185 engine in? I think I've seen peoples cars listed as a 165 with 185 engine but noone has written anything explaining the swap it seems. If I do this then I'll do a write up on it to help others out.

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Postby AWDios » Wed Aug 25, 2004 10:15 pm

ask chris dittrick. www.gtfour.ca
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Postby Rick89GTS » Thu Aug 26, 2004 3:21 am

The 185 motor into 165 shell is getting more and more common these days :D
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Postby Alter Ego » Thu Aug 26, 2004 5:48 am

awdios- Thanks for that link, that's a lot of good info. I'm going to show my friend who said not to worry about any of the wiring since he's mr. "wiring guy." Said he used to teach schematics but I'm wondering if he'll be able to put in the time to help with that much.

There's always putting another head on the stock engine......... I guess.
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Postby ChrisD » Thu Aug 26, 2004 2:03 pm

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Postby 5speedGT4 » Thu Aug 26, 2004 5:43 pm

go to chris's site, trust me it helps, i know quite well!

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Postby Alter Ego » Thu Aug 26, 2004 5:57 pm

yeah, it's Chris's site that I'm going to show my friend that will be helping me with the wiring. We'll see what he says after he reads that LONG wiring write up. He may not have the time to help me with that much. If not then I'll still get a head and get her back on the road. That and a paintjob should have her looking and hopefully running good again. Keeping fingers crossed that it's just the head if I don't do a swap.

Thanks for doing all that work Chris, I know now that I'll have to get much more than just the engine/tranny/ecu/ and wiring harness.
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Postby Alter Ego » Thu Aug 26, 2004 6:05 pm

I'd like to at least use the jdm ecu if I'm going to use a jdm engine. The power is there so why not use it.
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Postby Gary » Thu Aug 26, 2004 6:11 pm

Alter Ego wrote:I'd like to at least use the jdm ecu if I'm going to use a jdm engine. The power is there so why not use it.

Cause the JDM ECU takes advantage of higher octane gas that's not available (or hard to find) here. Also, for people who live in the place that smog test is mandatory, if you pass the visual inspection, chance is that you will fail the smog test with the JDM ECU.
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Postby Alter Ego » Fri Aug 27, 2004 3:21 am

Indiana has no testing or anything and 94 gas can be had almost anwhere. I wouldn't want to run higher than that regularly because of cost but there's lots of places to get it around here.
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Postby Alter Ego » Wed Sep 01, 2004 7:16 pm

My buddy said he had no problem doing the wiring with me after he read the write-up. I priced out things a little bit and if I do a front clip then I won't have the money left to get the car painted and take care of any other things that might come up so I'm getting a head for it. Already payed a member on here for a head so that should be onit's way soon. Just ordered a headgasket set, Timing belt kit, and a oil pan gasket just in case it needs that.

I still need to get Head studs and was wanting to do a metal headgasket. Anyone know the part #'s that I need to get for my car for these two things so that I know I'm getting the right stuff? Also, any other things that you all would recommend me doing while I'm in there. I'll be having the head gone over and milled down some so I'll need to get the appropriate hg to make up the difference.

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