st205 into st185 swap faq/ and parts compatibility

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Postby Kyoto » Thu May 04, 2006 2:57 pm

Does anyone have a link to the ST205 BGB pdf?
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Postby CMS-GT4 » Thu May 04, 2006 3:03 pm

The link stayed broken, so I bought a CD with them on it from some guy on ebay from the UK. If alltrac.net or anyone else want to host them, I will upload them.
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Postby Kyoto » Thu May 04, 2006 5:37 pm

Tim // Melbourne, Australia

1986 ST165. 152,000km on chassis
ST205 WRC engine / IC system / rear LSD with 82,000km
Blitz K1-380V
Apexi Power FC
Aussie 3" dump pipe to 3" catback system
TWM short shifter.
Whiteline front strut brace
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Postby CMS-GT4 » Thu May 04, 2006 9:55 pm

Anything I should be careful about when bending the dipstick? I need to move it for the sake of my fmic piping. That or pick another path, and I am trying to go as short as possible.

I am also trying to install the dp bracket. This bolt on the block is hard as hell to get loose. I am sore from working out, maybe I need some rest before trying to get it loose again.
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Postby CMS-GT4 » Fri May 05, 2006 6:08 pm

Also, where do you hook up a boost guage on a 205 engine?

EDIT: I also just picked up a 205 lsd cheap on ebay. They should be a nice addition to the car.
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Postby CMS-GT4 » Sat May 06, 2006 12:15 am

So here is an update.

Changed out some bits, ruined some bolts.

Here is a pic of the progress.

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What did you do for a bracket for this? The 185 one does not match up.

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Postby k_trac » Sat May 06, 2006 9:15 am

I whipped up a custom one with a welder, you'll figure something out.
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Postby CMS-GT4 » Sat May 06, 2006 8:13 pm

Did your st205s have an egr? I think mine does. It is located by the map sensor. I am going to use block off plates if that is what it is.
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Postby brophats » Mon May 08, 2006 2:37 am

hey your piping is looking similar to mine. i've just got one suggestion for you reflective thermal sleeving for that intercooler pipe that runs by the exhaust.
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Postby SuperWhite92 » Mon May 08, 2006 3:46 am

brophats wrote:hey your piping is looking similar to mine. i've just got one suggestion for you reflective thermal sleeving for that intercooler pipe that runs by the exhaust.
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Keep in mind you're not only reflecting heat, but trapping heat too, and that the air inside that pipe is hotter than your engine bay.
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Postby brophats » Mon May 08, 2006 12:42 pm

actually its not that hot. my air temp in the manifold is right around ambient temp now. it made a over a 60 degree difference when i checked it with a scan tool

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Postby CMS-GT4 » Mon May 08, 2006 12:59 pm

I have not decided on a path yet. I want to take the path that it is facing. I will also have water injection. Its more of a matter of if I can fit the piping down that way.
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Postby Acadian alltrac » Sat May 13, 2006 4:25 pm

hey guys just wondering if the 3gen tranny will fit the gear ratio of the st185 gear box and rear diff and is there any of the motor mounts did fit or none did ?? (will swap jdm 3gen as soon i get the parts needed) :shrug:
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Postby SuperWhite92 » Sat May 13, 2006 4:32 pm

Acadian alltrac wrote:hey guys just wondering if the 3gen tranny will fit the gear ratio of the st185 gear box and rear diff and is there any of the motor mounts did fit or none did ?? (will swap jdm 3gen as soon i get the parts needed) :shrug:


The ST205 tranny bolts up no problem, and you can even use the st185 axles. The diff ratios are the same on both cars.
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Postby Acadian alltrac » Sat May 13, 2006 6:13 pm

Thanks Shaun, now do any one now about the motor mounts. I will get new one if they dont fit, now is the time to replace them since the motor is out (st 185 motor still in, refering to st 205 motor that is)

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