st205 into st185 swap faq/ and parts compatibility

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Postby CMS-GT4 » Mon Dec 12, 2005 2:35 am

I am going to do that when I do the piping.

I am going to have to fab up a bracket of some sort.
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Postby CMS-GT4 » Wed Dec 14, 2005 4:11 pm

Any updates? I will try and give you a ring tonight.
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Postby CMS-GT4 » Fri Dec 16, 2005 2:32 am

Are you running both 205 o2 sensors?
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Postby alltracman78 » Fri Dec 16, 2005 2:54 am

CMS-GT4 wrote: I want to kick, the engineer who designed this, in the balls.


:rofl:

I have said the same thing more than once....
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Postby k_trac » Fri Dec 16, 2005 4:15 am

I dont have the small temp probe plugged into anything. Also, dont have the plug on the charcoal canister plugged into anything.

I drove the car a total of 1 mile today. I got the IC all hooked up. Had some trouble with figuring out where to get power from for 2 wires, ended up using inline fuses right off the battery since it was the closest and easiest thing.

I was exceited to not have a check engine light until I hit boost at heavy throttle. After that I got code 23 and 54. I know 54 is low coolant level for the IC, I didnt see a 23 on the st205 trouble sheet....? only 22 and 24
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Postby CMS-GT4 » Fri Dec 16, 2005 4:17 am

Any pics of how to do the pins?
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Postby CMS-GT4 » Mon Dec 19, 2005 4:24 pm

I think I am going to get an aussie dp for the 205. My dp is a for a 185 and only has the bung for the o2 sensor. I may just get a bung added. Not sure yet.
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Postby k_trac » Mon Dec 19, 2005 4:54 pm

Here is a pic of my pick, deppining the harness. If you have a white connector of some harness, like the small AC plug that goes behind the glove box, take a look at it.

When you look inside one of the pin holes that does NOT have a pin, you will see the little snap that holds the pin in place.

I say look at a white connector because you can actually see inside bc its a lot lighter. Once you can identify the snap that holds the pin in place, try moving it around with the pic. All you really need to do is push it upwards, away from the pin.

What I noticed is that it does not work well to just wedge the pic in between the snap and the pin becuase it binds up that way. Take the time to push up without touching the pin and pull the wire out the backside.

You really do need three hands, one to hold the harness, one for the pic, and one to pull the wire. I used my chin to hold the pic in place most of the time. You will create your own method. A vice for the harness would work too.

On an aside, my CEL stopped coming on, took it for a hell ride around the block....YES, A LOT FASTER THAN A STOCK 185!

Still dont have temp probe or charcoal canister hooked up to anything.....

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Postby CMS-GT4 » Mon Dec 19, 2005 5:04 pm

Thanks for the tips.

I replied to your error code post. I thought it might have had to do with the wiring to the air temp senso for the airbox.

Can you post a pic of the wires you used to to water temp sensors? Thats what I am going to jump on when I get back from holiday. I want to have the car running before the end of january.

My intercooler piping should be here by wednesday. If I have any free time, I am going to go ahead and try and figure that out.
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Postby CMS-GT4 » Mon Jan 02, 2006 7:42 pm

Well, I am going to tear into it this week after I get the next issue out. Hows your holding up?

I am also going to pull the a/c out. What belt are you using w/o the a/c?
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Postby scothaniel » Thu Jan 05, 2006 1:50 pm

Wow, for some reason I stopped getting the reply notifications after my last post. I had no idea this thread was still alive for the past 4 months or so!

So, where are you guys at with the wiring? Any questions I can help with?
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Postby k_trac » Thu Jan 05, 2006 1:55 pm

Ive put 25 miles on the car yesterday, no mishaps. My only remaining questions.....besides my constatly running cooling fans which you just helped me with....

-temp probe in first cat - what do I do with this?
-plug on charcoal canister- what do I do with this?

Other than that, thing runs the nuts, I think my exhaust is still clogged with rats nests and my throttle cable is screwed up, but thats not rocket science :shoots:

Thanks for all your help scott!
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Postby CMS-GT4 » Thu Jan 05, 2006 3:22 pm

Can one of you post where your map sensor is located?

I am afraid my mechanic didn't install it and tossed it.

Anyone know where and how much I can get one for... that is if I need one.

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Postby scothaniel » Thu Jan 05, 2006 3:32 pm

There is a temp probe in the first cat? Like an EGT probe someone put in, or a stock Toyota sensor? The only thing on my 205 DP is the o2 sensor.

As for the charcoal canister, some of the 3rd gens were setup to use a computer controlled vsv instead of the typical mechanical vsv's. Without the sensor connected, the vsv will remain closed and the hydrocarbons will be released to atmosphere. I dont think it will throw any error codes, but I can check when I get home.
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Postby CMS-GT4 » Thu Jan 05, 2006 3:45 pm

Mine has two probes as well. 02 ensor, and something that looks like an egt. I am not sure how I might wire it up, but I will have to geta bung welded into my dp and I am not sure how much it is really needed if you guys are not even using them.
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