The ST185 wheel size thread (offsets, widths, etc)

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Postby BoostedBlueToyotas » Tue Dec 07, 2004 1:05 am

===> Do you guys know if a 17x7 with a 45 offset would fit? I'm in love with Scion Rims, and might be buying some over winter break.


I checked out my scion wheels on my blue alltrac last night. It is real close on the rear, seems OK on the front. If I could post pictures here
I will. Note that the tires on the scion have a unique (at least I have never
seen it before) feature : The tires have a built in lip over the rim to help
prevent you from curbing the rim and would appear to provide protection
from bending the rim if you hit a pothole :shock:
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Postby MetalliKAT97 » Tue Feb 22, 2005 9:00 pm

I just went with ENKEI OR52 (Anthracite) 16x7
5x100 38mm offset
and they look PUUURRRRTTTYYYY on the car.
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Postby CMS-GT4 » Mon Feb 28, 2005 6:20 pm

I posted a simular topic on celicatech, on how to change celica hubs from 5/100 to 5/114.3.

One sugested using solara/ avalon hubs on the front and mr2 hubs on the rear. I wonder if you could use the solara hubs all around.

So this is another idea to try.
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Postby furpo » Wed Mar 02, 2005 11:46 pm

with either 17x7.5 or 17x8's what sort of offset should i be looking at a) to fill the front on a narrow body st185 and b) clear the struts? i have been in contact with rays engineering and they will make what ever i want. i will space the rears out to suit so all the wheels are the same.

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Postby CMS-GT4 » Thu Mar 03, 2005 4:38 pm

furpo wrote:with either 17x7.5 or 17x8's what sort of offset should i be looking at a) to fill the front on a narrow body st185 and b) clear the struts? i have been in contact with rays engineering and they will make what ever i want. i will space the rears out to suit so all the wheels are the same.

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This is what 17x8 w/ 30mm offset looks like.

http://img73.exs.cx/img73/5056/castrol1.jpg
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Postby AWDios » Mon Mar 14, 2005 7:42 pm

Ok it looks like I'll have 17x9's 30ET w/ 245/40/17's on the car very shortly.

What should I be anticipating with this? Light rubbing? Where? Fender Rolling? Front and rear?

If I can get the rims and some tires before friday, I'm going to do a rallyx in them so I'd like to be as prepared as possible.
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Postby CMS-GT4 » Mon Mar 14, 2005 7:51 pm

Roll the rear fenders. Depending on tire size, you may have little to no rubbing. If anything you may need to run some small 5mm or so spacers for some minor adjustments, but from what we have seen, you should be ok. Keep us posted. We are all excited to see the results. BTW: What tires are you using?
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Postby AWDios » Mon Mar 14, 2005 9:00 pm

If the wheels are going to get here before friday then I'm going to just get whatever rubber I can to have them ready for the Rally school in Oregon.

Otherwise I think I'll be going for S-03's

If this works eventually I'll have two sets of 17x9's one for street and one for track, so for now I need a tire that will do both. Afterwards I'll probably put on Toyo RA-1's. That's what most of the guys up here seem to prefer.
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Postby furpo » Thu Mar 17, 2005 11:51 pm

just been out and measured my narrow body car in the rain.

i measured from the hub to to strut i get 170mm on the back and 160mm on the front. it is quite differcult measuring with the rim on the car. i got it as accurate as possable. i was woundering if this is also the meaurement for wide body cars? (is same offset required for a widebody car as a narrow body car?)

from the strut to the gaurd i measured 260mm on the front and 280mm on the rear.

out of curiosity i measured my rim width at 210mm or 8inches. i was woundering how rims are measured? i have never checked the marking on the back of the hub to know what size they are, they however, do no look like 8 inch rims.

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Postby CMS-GT4 » Fri Mar 18, 2005 5:24 pm

Here are some good links on tire selection.

http://www.yokohamatire.com/utperf.asp

http://www.yokohamatire.com/utrimwidth.asp

I am trying to find a link that explains a ratio of handling increased per additional rubber on the ground.
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Postby furpo » Mon Mar 21, 2005 1:05 am

i have been doing a bit of research and have found three companies that are helpful

enkei have most of there 17's available in 17 x 8 all at 35 offset. the RPF1 weighs 15.6 lbs. www.enkei.com there are lots of different types of mags listed.

OZ racing have the Superleggra in silver; 17 x 8 at 35mm offset weighing 7.7 kg and the Clase PL in 17 x 8 at 35mm offset weighing 10.2 kg

Rays - volk - works have a large selection of wheels and offsets. i looked at the gram lights range which comes in either 17 x 7.5 or 17 x 8.5. these come in whatever offset you want and weigh about 6 or 7 kg. there is a works emotion (i think that is what it is called) which is available in the same size as well.

the oz racing and rays engineering wheels are quite pricey but the enkeis where quite well priced.

does anyone know if the 35 offset will work? from what i have worked out it should on the narrow body car anyway. also what is meant by the bore diameter. the enkeis are 73mm?

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Postby AWDios » Fri Mar 25, 2005 3:19 pm

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Postby CMS-GT4 » Sun Apr 24, 2005 7:28 pm

Correction on the Garage Cruise specs.

17x9.5 +35.

Front tires: 255/40/17
Rear tires: 235/45/17
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Postby CMS-GT4 » Fri May 06, 2005 4:10 pm

C-One now offers a wheel for the celica for around 30,000yen each.

17x8 +32.

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Postby Playfortoday » Sat Jun 04, 2005 5:10 am

OK guys... I have about five of these threads stickied, and I reviewed all of them. Also, I have been search the web for about four hours now, and I am having no luck. I still am unsure what size and brand I should go with. Maybe the answer is out there, but all of the jargon is confusing sometimes.

I would like whatever size wheel and tire that I go with to fill the wheel wells (as flush with fenders as possible) without rubbing the fenders or requiring me to roll them. Here is my set up:

Stock suspension, no wheel spacers. Currently running some lame 16" generic alloys with stock offsets. They look pathetic and sunker in from the fender lip.

Since I am going to be spending loads o' cash on new wheels and tires, I was hoping there is a wheel and tire combo out there that can help me to avoid having to spend extra money on H&R wheel spacers. However, if there is a sweet as size combination out there that mates up to the H&R spacers brilliantly, then I am game I guess.

I was looking at getting a 16(preferably due to weigh) or 17 inch wheels as wide as possible(or with an agressive offset) without having to place a custom order. The wheel style that I like best so far is the Enkei ZR1 in SBC or the OR52 in Anthracite. There are others brands out there that I like better but the enkei's seem cheaper. I am open to any brand with a similar styling to those too. Under $200 preferably.

Thanks in advance!
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