The ST185 wheel size thread (offsets, widths, etc)

Suspension and other discussion

Postby CMS-GT4 » Thu Mar 01, 2007 5:34 pm

For those interested I found another wheel option. They are for a good price at tirererack.

ASA

17x8 35et (165 each)

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Enkei

17x8 35et (288)

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Volk Gramlight
17x8 45et (I think volk offers a lower offset in the setup.)

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Others in 17x8 for our car.

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There are more designs if you guys hunt through here. Plus if you call them with your specs, they can help find a wheel that works thats not listed on their website.

Their website offers safe wheels sizes they know wil fit that are also not far off from stock rolling dia. etc..

Good luck.

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Postby eddie_gt4 » Mon Mar 05, 2007 7:56 am

justjoe wrote:Anyone have Factory 185 wheel weights?


the wheel itself (w/o nippel and cap) is ~9.1kg/20lbs
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Postby CMS-GT4 » Fri Mar 09, 2007 4:21 pm

Fensport has some nice wheels for the gtfour.

http://fensport.co.uk/partsfiles/st205mech.htm
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Postby beppy » Sun Apr 22, 2007 6:40 am

Conan wrote:
beppy wrote:i just ordered a set of enkei rs7. 17x7 et 42mm.

this is greater than stock et of 38 mm. would i have anything to worry about? or should i start ordering spacers.

Sure, you won't be competing for Mr Flush Fenders 2007 with those wheels but +42 offset does not cause any clearance problems on ST185. I was running those same specs for over 2 years.


i received the rims today. there is clearance problem at least in the rear. The wheel right now is rubbing against the back. so its too far in. Maybe its because it is mounted with 225mm tires, maybe 215, or 205mm tires will be better.

havn't tried the front, but i'm thinking about doing that too, if front clears, maybe all i'll need are spacers in the back.
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Postby Tazka » Sun Apr 22, 2007 4:02 pm

Im planning to get Rial Giro 7,5 x 17" ET38(and paint them white) What sized tires should i get on these?
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Postby eddie_gt4 » Thu Apr 26, 2007 5:58 am

Tazka wrote:Im planning to get Rial Giro 7,5 x 17" ET38(and paint them white) What sized tires should i get on these?


nice choice on wheels! :)
I'd go for the 215/45's cause they're closer to the stock rolling radius + the recommended rim range is 7-8.5 vs. 7.5-9 (225/45's)
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Postby Griffin » Fri Apr 27, 2007 3:42 pm

So has anyone run the Team Dynamics 17x9 wheels on an ST185?

If so do the fenders have to be rolled, are spacers required, and what tire size can youget away with?
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Postby CMS-GT4 » Fri Apr 27, 2007 3:49 pm

Adios bought them a while back. I think he ran 245/45/17. Not sure if he had to roll anything. I had to roll the fenders for 255/40/17.
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Postby AWDios » Fri Apr 27, 2007 4:16 pm

Griffin wrote:So has anyone run the Team Dynamics 17x9 wheels on an ST185?

If so do the fenders have to be rolled, are spacers required, and what tire size can youget away with?


Indeed I did. Dude my car is in the ad on Rocketeer and I've got reviews earlier in this thread and pics, so go look. I'd say a spacer in the rear might be nice but not required.

Anyways, yes no fender rolling, but the car is still on stock suspension, I could see potentially needing to roll them if I lowered it.

The outside of the tire will rub the fender lining in the front when at full lock, but its minor and you could trim. I think I also heard the fenders rub on hard bumps while autocrossing, but again, stock suspension, 200k miles on the car, I got it at 150k, and I don't think the original owner ever replaced the shocks.
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Postby turbo4wd » Fri Apr 27, 2007 5:30 pm

AWDios wrote:
Griffin wrote:So has anyone run the Team Dynamics 17x9 wheels on an ST185?

If so do the fenders have to be rolled, are spacers required, and what tire size can youget away with?


Indeed I did. Dude my car is in the ad on Rocketeer and I've got reviews earlier in this thread and pics, so go look. I'd say a spacer in the rear might be nice but not required.

Anyways, yes no fender rolling, but the car is still on stock suspension, I could see potentially needing to roll them if I lowered it.

The outside of the tire will rub the fender lining in the front when at full lock, but its minor and you could trim. I think I also heard the fenders rub on hard bumps while autocrossing, but again, stock suspension, 200k miles on the car, I got it at 150k, and I don't think the original owner ever replaced the shocks.


Just be aware, if your car is lowered on the stock struts, or if you have coilovers like Teins, the TDs will not fit without spacers. Here's the conversation via PM that John from Rocketeer and I had 2 years ago when AWDios first got his set.

turbo4wd wrote:My current wheels are 17x7.5 with a 48 offset.. 17x9 with a 30 offset would give me 1mm LESS clearance from the inside of the wheel to strut body..

Anyhow.. my point is I went out tonight and took off one of my rear wheels, took off my 1 inch spacer, and tried to mount just the wheel itself so I could get an idea of clearance and the middle of the sidewall ended up hitting against the bottom perch on the Tein.. But this isnt what worries me because I know I can adjust these.. What worries me is I know when I had my stock strut setup, my wheels rubbed against the rear strut tower..

Rocketeer wrote:Yes, I just confirmed the same measurement. The overall distance from the inside rim surface to the mounting surface on your 7.5 is 143.25 vs. 144.30 on the 9". So, you would have slightly more than 1mm less space.

I don't think AWDios' car is lowered which may be why it worked on his. There may be enough spacing to move it out that slight amount with a narrow 2.5mm spacer. However, I can't guanrantee that.

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Postby Griffin » Fri Apr 27, 2007 7:39 pm

Huh... I do have Tein SS suspension but the car isn't significantly lowered. I'll just call John and talk to him I guess.

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Postby turbo4wd » Fri Apr 27, 2007 7:51 pm

Griffin wrote:Huh... I do have Tein SS suspension but the car isn't significantly lowered. I'll just call John and talk to him I guess.


If its lowered at all, its most likely not going to work.. On my previous setup I had the stock struts, but they had the Whiteline springs in there, which don't offer a significant drop in ride height..

If you want, you can also try another option. The Falken Hanabi's come in 17x9 5x100 with a 20 offset and theyre offered at a great price (around $175 each depending on the source). They are manufactured by Enkei so there shouldn't be too many questions in terms of quality. The only thing questionable is the swept spoke design which I'm not a big fan of personally..

Another thing is they've been out for quite some time now, and I'm not sure when Falken will change or discontinue the design.. For now its still up on their website..
http://www.falkentire.com/main.htm

As for TN.. hehe.. its nice.. but I've been so freakin busy its crazy.. I'll email you my info again.
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Postby lumbercis » Mon Apr 30, 2007 7:13 am

I thought that Team Dynamics was making the wheels with those specs specifically for our cars? If thats the case, can't we just ask them to make the rims with a lower offset? For a 17x9 rim, what is the "perfect" offset without using spacers?
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Postby AWDios » Mon Apr 30, 2007 5:09 pm

lumbercis wrote:I thought that Team Dynamics was making the wheels with those specs specifically for our cars? If thats the case, can't we just ask them to make the rims with a lower offset? For a 17x9 rim, what is the "perfect" offset without using spacers?
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Rocketeer was stocking them for our car, and they do fit just about perfect for a stock car. All sorts of other mods don't work together without some changes (white line swaybar and Tein's for example)
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Postby turbo4wd » Mon Apr 30, 2007 10:13 pm

lumbercis wrote:But with a different offset, won't the wheels fit well on both stock and modded alltracs? Seems like we have plenty of fender, might as well use it right?
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Yes, but TD wasn't making custom wheels for us specifically - Rocketeer was stocking wheels that TD was already offering at a preset offset that just happened to work for 185s that had a stock ride height.
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