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PostPosted: Thu Aug 19, 2004 5:40 pm
by Zeus
yeah i would say its a good set up for the average person looking to have car look a little nicer and handle much better...

i still think i would go with some different springs though as i have bottomed out a couple times on the street just going over bumps in the road and such... something my 200 doesnt do at all (i can practically take jumps in that car) but again its a readily available set up that really gets rid of all the body roll ect which there is a lot of the alltrac...

PostPosted: Fri Aug 20, 2004 3:45 am
by ChrisD
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 24, 2004 5:40 am
by Sifu
I've read that Whiteline's were linear vs. progressive. Is there any major difference between the two? Because I'm starting to look at suspension packages and the Whiteline's are really interesting me vs. the very $$$ JSPEED models.

Suspension mods will be the first thing I do next to an EMS upgrade. Thanks.

PostPosted: Wed Sep 01, 2004 1:32 am
by omgitsroy326
for a st165 besides whiteline.. what other brand is offered?

PostPosted: Wed Sep 15, 2004 3:25 pm
by Conrad_Turbo
Sifu wrote:I've read that Whiteline's were linear vs. progressive. Is there any major difference between the two? Because I'm starting to look at suspension packages and the Whiteline's are really interesting me vs. the very $$$ JSPEED models.

Suspension mods will be the first thing I do next to an EMS upgrade. Thanks.


Linear is more predictable for racing or driving on the limit, progressive is for people who want a sporty ride...but still want a smooth ride as well.

i recall the spring rate is 190 in the front and 135? in the rear... someting like that... i would think we would need something in atleast the 300's and 200's respectively seeings how heavy the car is... i would THINK...


That's very low! My 1700lb Starlet has 300lb/in in the front and 225lb/in in the rear and the car rides quite well, having thoes springs on a Celi would ride even smoother and decrease the natural frequency of the suspension even more.

PostPosted: Thu Sep 23, 2004 1:47 am
by edv-tek
The whiteline package is weak in the department of the springs


I will have to eat crow on this statement I made. I had forgotten to let the coils break in for a month or two before making any statements. The springs dropped a little more and became stiffer over time. They are not so bad after all.

PostPosted: Sat Sep 25, 2004 2:17 am
by roo
swift used to make swaybars for our cars....those were the absolute best. From what I've heard, Whiteline's sways and bushings are amazing. I need to get under my lil brother's car and find out what sways are on it.....if they're whiteline, i'll get a set for my car because his car outhandles mine in a bad way. The previous owner claims they're cusco sway bars but i don't think cusco makes sways for our cars....at least they're not in the 2004 catalog that is.....

PostPosted: Sun Jan 16, 2005 1:51 am
by tweekgt4
anyone get the castor bushings for the st165 or st185 yet?

how are they?

PostPosted: Sun Jan 16, 2005 4:26 am
by InitialD93
all i can say is WOW... i finally got to push my car tonight with the Whiteline rear bar installed... i was flat out amazed at the grip/stability characteristics it changed while handleing. it felt like a totally different car. Even with my stock rims and crappy winter tires it still felt 100x over stock as far as body control goes... i could feel the limits and meet them without fear of the car shifting weight unusually. This is probably the 2nd best mod i have done to my car... (first being the JIC coilovers)... and for the money the improve ment is unmatched.

NOTE: i have the sway bar set in the middle setting... prolly gona tighten it up when i pull my diff mount to fill it.

PostPosted: Fri May 27, 2005 2:04 am
by Dannam
I also live in Calgary roads can be pretty harsh. I have scraped my front bumper more times than I can count Im considering raising my 165 up a bit.

PostPosted: Thu Oct 27, 2005 12:02 am
by alltracshoak
whiteline OR TRD?...jw?...

PostPosted: Tue Nov 01, 2005 7:27 pm
by CodingParadox
I put the rear adj swaybar on (middle setting for now,) with the front and rear bushings, and the car handles amazingly better. It really is night and day. I'm going to stay away from the springs though, since all they are is a cheap lowering setup, same stiffness as stock.

PostPosted: Tue Dec 13, 2005 4:52 am
by 124Spider
I replaced the worn-out shocks in my 165 with Teins, and the front and rear sway bars with Whiteline bars, all at the same time. So, I don't know exactly what did what, but the difference in handling is amazing.

PostPosted: Wed Feb 15, 2006 7:38 am
by not12listen
so, from everything i've read so far in this thread, the WhiteLine is a good overall setup for the ST165.

i've no doubt that a high-end package like JIC or TEIN would surpass the WhiteLine package... but, for a first time AllTrac driver, the WhiteLine seems like the package to go with...

or, am i mistaken?

PostPosted: Wed Mar 01, 2006 7:57 am
by AlltracAvenger
Alright... here's a quick question. Has anyone tried the Whiteline rear bar at the full stiff setting versus the medium? I know it's a major difference(I just threw a tiny rear sway on my Accord, and it made _that_ handle amazingly better; I can only imagine what the Whiteline's going to do to my '165), but what is the difference between the settings?

Also, for anyone who hasn't picked up a Whiteline bar yet... the build quality is amazing. I'm thoroughly impressed at how stiff and well-constructed it is... and I haven't even put it on my car yet. I'm going to have to wait a long while to test stuff out, but once I get my car running I'm sure it'll be an instant hit.